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afransen
Senior Member
What's with the lack of overhangs? Canada has a lot of pretty wet climates. Also, why do none of the designs respect the existing vernacular?
runTurtles
New Member
Housing Design Catalogue: Designs
The Housing Design Catalogue includes a range of designs for different housing types and site conditions in each region.
Northern Light
Superstar
That render is spectacularly ugly. There's a special place in hell for the person who actually thought that was remotely acceptable to be built anywhere on earth.
Hideous cladding, hideous colour and asymmetrical windows....... yikes!
Northern Light
Superstar
The rest of the designs are up here with floor plans (detailed architectural designs aren't up yet). It seems to be 2 adu, 2 stack/row houses, 2 fourplexes and 1 sixplex for each region.Housing Design Catalogue: Designs
The Housing Design Catalogue includes a range of designs for different housing types and site conditions in each region.www.housingcatalogue.cmhc-schl.gc.ca
Lets bring some of them forward.....
A couple of the ADUs look passable:
Both are a bit monotone......bu other wise ok.
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About 1/2 the ADUs seem to pass muster.........most of the larger stuff is varying degrees of ugly.
Towered
Superstar
Particularly jarring when nestled between some decent Victorians...
evandyk
Senior Member
I am curious about what makes a particular six-plex design appropriate for Ontario, but no other province. Is it to comply with provincial building codes? Wouldn't it be better to pressure the provinces to harmonize their building codes as much as possible so the designs can be used universally across the country?
And why do almost all of them have peaked roofs? Flat roofs look so much better for modern buildings, and are generally more practical.
And why do almost all of them have peaked roofs? Flat roofs look so much better for modern buildings, and are generally more practical.
Northern Light
Superstar
Disagree. Don't think flat looks good on most buildings. It also sticks out like a sore thumb in areas where pitched is the norm.
Also, although flat roofs when built correctly and well maintained, should not leak more than pitched roofs, the general experience is that they do. Even a flat roof has to be pitched for drainage and getting that subtlety right is often a challenge.
Most homeowners also don't maintain them properly.
Final note, flat roofs have a shorter lifespan than pitched.
Sunnyside
Senior Member
This was my assumption- building codes. I don’t conventionally assume the code would require differences this large (esp for simple residential designs), but alas. In any case, if ON designs are tailored, you’d think we’d see more brick!
Harmonizing building codes sounds nice, but the provinces are pretty different in terms of climate, geology, etc. All else held equal, In housing BC has outdone ON, but we’ve made changes too. They can give us precedent, and even help to avoid mistakes. Imo, a Federal code would be tough to wrangle. It would get the Feds more involved in housing, though, and If serious code change came, significantly more so…
As for the second point, most roofs are never truly flat, for one… water needs to go somewhere. It’s also probably an aesthetic choice to make these easier on the public’s eyes (People associate peaked rooves with detached, semi-detached or row/ town housing). The Feds can’t do anything once you get to the planning stage - might as well be as palatable as possible.
evandyk
Senior Member
Yes, I have a "flat" roof, but it actually has something like a 3 degree slope for drainage.
I get that there are building code things that relate to climate and issues like earthquake risk. Obviously you'll need different designs if those things are driving differences in the building codes. But harmonizing things that don't relate to factors that change across the provinces should be one goal of this exercise.
I get that there are building code things that relate to climate and issues like earthquake risk. Obviously you'll need different designs if those things are driving differences in the building codes. But harmonizing things that don't relate to factors that change across the provinces should be one goal of this exercise.
Tuscani01
Senior Member
To each their own. It's actually one of my favourites of the bunch. Love the colour and cladding.
evandyk
Senior Member
I have cladding in that style on my house, though the colour is much nicer.
Northern Light
Superstar
You're a great guy......but you have your quirks, LOL This is one of those.
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In all seriousness, in terms of catering the majority, studies have established beyond any doubt that people overwhelmingly prefer symmetry.
That's not at all in question. Obviously, there are people who hold outlying views, but if you want to create designs that will get a rubber stamp and not ruffle the broader public much, you want want to follow the taste of the majority.
While I respect your right to be a tad peculiar, LOL ........... I don't get how you can like that huge amount of blank facing wall on the second floor.
Colour is a bit more personal taste.......cladding studies show people prefer materials they relate to being natural (ish) such as brick, stone and wood, and generally dislike metallic, pre-cast, and alloys/plastics/vinyl.
afransen
Senior Member
In what way are flat roofs more practical?
Tuscani01
Senior Member
I don’t support policies that impose a design style on anyone, so these designs are something I definitely support especially if they will ruffle feathers. I don't believe in ‘preserving neighbourhood character’ and conformity. I love messiness and variety and tossing some of these into our cookie cutter neighbourhoods is going to be fun.
If someone wants something more traditional, there’s already countless houses already built to accommodate their tastes.