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robmausser
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I am curious to see what the time savings are.
nfitz
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239 minutes is the time to beat.
reaperexpress
Senior Member
Good to hear that they're looking at longer consists for this service. The lack of stops and potentially high average speed makes it a good application of the longer (7-car) Venture consists with poor power-to-weight ratio and lots of business class seats.
Introducing non-stop trains is a bit of an odd decision considering that increasing the scheduled average speed of Via trains increases the conflict with slow-moving CN trains. Maybe there was some kind of backroom deal with CN that they'd free up some high-speed slots for Via as a (small) apology for absolutely decimating their business with the level crossing speed restrictions.
The old high-speed LRC sets (with 2x power cars) had a higher power-to-weight ratio than the current 7-car Venture sets, and they had higher speed limits - they were subject to the special LRC/Turbo speed limit for tilting trains whereas Ventures are limited to the same P+ speed limit as the rest of Via's fleet (including the LRC cars, which have since had their tilting mechanisms removed). It will not be possible to match the travel times of the TurboTrain or the early LRC services.
LRC in Kingston in 1985, photo by @Trackside_Treasure
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dowlingm
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The direct services won't have to crossover to access single station platforms, so at least that would allow switch moves to be solely planned around overtaking moves.Good to hear that they're looking at longer consists for this service. The lack of stops and potentially high average speed makes it a good application of the longer (7-car) consists with poor power-to-weight ratio and lots of business class seats.
Introducing non-stop trains is a bit of an odd decision considering that increasing the scheduled average speed of Via trains increases the conflict with slow-moving CN trains.
nfitz
Superstar
The current 7-car trains with 2 engines?Good to hear that they're looking at longer consists for this service. The lack of stops and potentially high average speed makes it a good application of the longer (7-car) consists with poor power-to-weight ratio and lots of business class seats.
Introducing non-stop trains is a bit of an odd decision considering that increasing the scheduled average speed of Via trains increases the conflict with slow-moving CN trains. Maybe there was some kind of backroom deal with CN that they'd free up some high-speed slots for Via as a (small) apology for absolutely decimating their business with the level crossing speed restrictions.
The old high-speed LRC sets (with 2x power cars) had a higher power-to-weight ratio than the current 7-car Venture sets, and they had higher speed limits - they were subject to the special LRC/Turbo speed limit for tilting trains whereas Ventures are limited to the same P+ speed limit as the rest of Via's fleet (including the LRC cars, which have since had their tilting mechanisms removed). It will not be possible to match the travel times of the TurboTrain or the early LRC services.
LRC in Kingston in 1985, photo by @Trackside_Treasure
The LRC tilting was never reliable. The number of times that it tilted the wrong way or angle when I was riding it.
I believe the tilting had been locked for years by the time the final than 4-hour runs were done. I don't believe tilting is needed at only 160 km/hr. The trains were design for 200 km/hr operation.
Come to think of it, the old Britsh Rail Intercity 125 trains from the mid-1970s didn't tilt either, as far as I know. And I believe they did operate at 200 km/hr.
reaperexpress
Senior Member
The only single-platform stations served by Montreal trains are Brockville and Cornwall. The rest of the single-platform stations (Port Hope, Trenton, Napanee, Gananoque, Coteau) are only served by Ottawa trains anyway.
The only intermediate stations served by Montreal trains are:
Guildwood (3 platforms)
Oshawa (3 platforms)
Cobourg (3 platforms)
Belleville (3 platforms)
Kingston (2 platforms)
Brockville (1 platform)
Cornwall (1 platform)
Dorval (2 platforms)
No, the new 7-car, 1-locomotive Venture sets they're assembling.
I don't think the LRC speed limit was contingent on tilting working, considering the Renaissance coaches were also elligible for that speed limit and they never tilted to begin with. I'm not sure why the LRC coaches lost their LRC-speed designation.
nfitz
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I"ve lost track
My guess would be metal fatigue and corrosion. I'm surprised they let them go more than 60 km/hr or 80 km/hr.