Addictions problems that get out of control do tend to cause employment issues which probably also make it harder to find another job. It is all related.
Glenco said:
I find it hard to believe that someone who had an oil field job cannot find employment in the construction industry as a labourer or as a janitor I find such reasoning to be just another in a litany of excuses.
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thommyjo said:
This is well documented in other cities like LA/portland too.

Or look at the current migrant crisis in NYC

The reason many of the more "compassionate" ideas aren't working is because cities aren't closed systems. So unless you bring rules and alignment across the country, you'll have imbalance. And that'll then lead to movement towards areas with resources/support/relaxed laws. If you're an addict in saskatoon, but your encampment gets cleared daily, there's no SCS, there's few other guys on the street, the police are always on top of you if you're trying to steal/loiter/harass....why stay if you can nicely tent in the river valley in edmonton, no one bugs you, there's free safe supply, lots of shelters with meals, relaxed laws.

Surprise, surprise if edmonton's homeless population doesn't decrease when you have that imbalance.

And hence why housing first hasn't worked in LA/Vancouver. They've spent billions and the problem is worse than ever. So we can't pretend like it's just a money/political will issue.
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It’s definitely political. If Danielle Smith implemented the very laws that would be rid of this problem the blue haired mafia would take to the streets and that’s the truth. We here on this forum for the most part no matter our political differences, admit to when we’re mistaken or when someone else has a better idea. I see many people liking posts here that they wouldn’t have liked 4 years ago on this forum. They are quiet about it but I respect you all who have seen and watched the last few years and have changed your mind. Many don’t and forever won’t unfortunately. Those people are frankly the majority of the urban population and when you’re a politician you have to play the political game. She likely knows the media would frame her as Sauron or Darth Vader or an Austrian Painter.
 
God said:
It’s definitely political. If Danielle Smith implemented the very laws that would be rid of this problem the blue haired mafia would take to the streets and that’s the truth. We here on this forum for the most part no matter our political differences, admit to when we’re mistaken or when someone else has a better idea. I see many people liking posts here that they wouldn’t have liked 4 years ago on this forum. They are quiet about it but I respect you all who have seen and watched the last few years and have changed your mind. Many don’t and forever won’t unfortunately. Those people are frankly the majority of the urban population and when you’re a politician you have to play the political game. She likely knows the media would frame her as Sauron or Darth Vader or an Austrian Painter.
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God, buddy, pal, could you please provide details of why Rachel did nothing and it's ok with you, she has the answers, everybody's money, and yet we had this problem during her reign. I agree it's gotten worse, but could that not also be a sign of her policies failing??? Asking for a friend
 
Hey, also asking for a friend: why does every CONServative supporter blame the 4 year window the NDP was in power for the province's woes, CONSidering, you know, the 40+ years of CONServative power here? Again, asking for a friend.

BTW, I'm a firm believer in a more tough love approach to our current social challenges. A transit system is to move people, not be a homeless shelter.

See, I can call out the stupidity on both sides of the spectrum; I'm not beholden to any ideology.
 
Honestly? I think pointing fingers isn’t helpful because if we want to lay blame it’s not one person, it’s a never ending cascade of events and policies going back decades (if not a century) that got us here. There is no one person to blame and if we just fix what they did it all goes away.

Is what we are doing now working? That’s all I think matters and the answer is in my opinion no, and it’s going to take changes at many different agencies: from Human Services, to Alberta Health, to the court system, to the CBSA to tackle this problem. That’s not skirting the issue so much as acknowledging the homelessness crisis is extremely complicated and difficult to solve, and nobody in North America is really dealing with it well.

To be somewhat on topic and end this rant, case in point: Opening the LRT tunnels for shelter during the big cold snap a few years ago seemed to be the big inflection point of this problem but it likely saved lives doing so. It’s a policy that was probably needed at the time but had ramifications that reverberated years later. It had a part to play in the crisis but isn’t the cause.
 
So today I rode the Valley Line to Churchill going to work. When I arrived two of the shelters had homeless inside clearly setting it up as their personal shelter. Fairly filthy inside too. As much as it was a nice idea to have these shelters and stations open to everyone, my thought is to get ride of the shelters. It will suck when it's really cold to stand outside but it will be better than leaving those spaces to be occupied like that.
 
Yup. Frankly
- arc card/ticket access for all shelters should be a mandatory at this point
- Constant EPS/Peace Officer presence, it’s not like I haven’t seen them there, I’ve seen them twice last weekend giving tickets and moving people off the shelters.
 
fungus_eater said:
Need permanent peace officer or police presence at all downtown station platforms at this point.
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I honestly don’t get how this isn’t a thing.

A homeless dude walks up and within 2mins he’s sent packing or another officer of sorts is called to come and escort/arrest them.

We should also bring in security measures other cities have for quickly reporting issues on the trains and at stations with immediate responses. I know we have some stuff, but it’s just not working. I should be able to send a video and have the next stop an officer stepping onto the train to arrest drug users or those with weapons.

And some might call this cruel, but with cameras and centralized operations, could you not have like alarms/deterrents controlled by outside operators? Homeless person camps in a shelter and through the cameras a central operator can hit a button to get a loud alarm going within the shelter that makes it uncomfortable to stay in. Once they leave, turn off.
 
Habibfazil said:
God, buddy, pal, could you please provide details of why Rachel did nothing and it's ok with you, she has the answers, everybody's money, and yet we had this problem during her reign. I agree it's gotten worse, but could that not also be a sign of her policies failing??? Asking for a friend
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It’s not okay with me. It could be a sign.
 
God said:
It’s not okay with me. It could be a sign.
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You know that you are probably correct. These individuals that need help are merely pawns in the poverty industry, and neither side seems to have any answers. It's well past time we acknowledge that what we are doing is a failure...
 
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