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Coolibop said:
They were already closed last week when I passed by (and noticed patrons complaining about it)...
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Weird they bothered to put signs with a date and then start more than 2 weeks early.
 
Richard White said:
I wonder if a pipe exploded.

It has happened to ttc washrooms in the past, notably Warden when the temperatures fluctuated
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Bloor-Yonge station is one of the hottest stations on the line. If a pipe were to explode there, it’d be from steam.
 
urbanclient said:
Rapid transit systems in the US having abysmal ridership except for NYC seems like a US-specific issue. I won't expand on possible reasons because it belongs in a different thread.
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People need to feel comfortable and safe, then reliability comes into play.

I will regularly see on social media people screaming you don't have the right to feel safe, and in the same thought they'll wonder why ridership is down!
 
turbanplanner said:
People need to feel comfortable and safe, then reliability comes into play.

I will regularly see on social media people screaming you don't have the right to feel safe, and in the same thought they'll wonder why ridership is down!
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Anything to back this up with? It feels like the same sort of talking point for why people don't want to use public transit in the first place (it's for poor people, it's for (insert racial demographic) etc.).

People don't use public transit in the US, i'm assuming, because their cities are not conducive to it or getting around with it, NYC and few others being the exception. How far is the LA Metro or BART going to get people where they need to go? Probably not very far.
 
Mihairokov said:
Anything to back this up with? It feels like the same sort of talking point for why people don't want to use public transit in the first place (it's for poor people, it's for (insert racial demographic) etc.).

People don't use public transit in the US, i'm assuming, because their cities are not conducive to it or getting around with it, NYC and few others being the exception. How far is the LA Metro or BART going to get people where they need to go? Probably not very far.
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Nearly half of Toronto transit riders feel unsafe riding TTC: Ipsos poll. Regardless if they're "wrong" you have to do something to tackle that perspective.

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Watch Nearly half of Toronto transit riders feel unsafe riding TTC: Ipsos poll Video Online, on GlobalNews.ca
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I agree most cities are not setup in a way that public transit is even useable. To me the safety issue explains why PREVIOUS riders, chose to start driving instead.
 
turbanplanner said:
People need to feel comfortable and safe, then reliability comes into play. I will regularly see on social media people screaming you don't have the right to feel safe, and in the same thought they'll wonder why ridership is down!
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Agreed.


The sad thing is the best tool for maintaining perceived and actual safety on the TTC is right there in front of them, fare enforcement. You don't have to approach or remove EDPs if most cannot get onto the system to start with. Stop them at the gate or door.
 
Admiral Beez said:
Agreed.


The sad thing is the best tool for maintaining perceived and actual safety on the TTC is right there in front of them, fare enforcement. You don't have to approach or remove EDPs if most cannot get onto the system to start with. Stop them at the gate or door.
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I haven’t regularly taken the TTC at rush-hour in years, but I noticed the inspectors were all waiting at the bottom of the steps at Bathurst, there was also enforcement at Spadina (though you could literally walk right past them because the stanchions were open)
 
turbanplanner said:
Nearly half of Toronto transit riders feel unsafe riding TTC: Ipsos poll. Regardless if they're "wrong" you have to do something to tackle that perspective.
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Anything more recent than this? I'm not moving goalposts but 2023 was coming out of COVID and much has changed b/w then and now. Is TTC ridership up/down compared to violent crime on TTC in that timeframe?

Either way, the video from Global doesn't really support your assertion that ridership is down because transit is unsafe. The woman they interviewed who was assaulted continued using TTC after her assault.

Anyway, tired of this thread becoming a soapbox for dog whistling over the unhoused and those with other issues who need government support. I come here to read about TTC, not fearmongering over scary people riding the subway.
 

You're safer taking taking public transit than driving​


From https://www.wearetdm.com/single-post/these-charts-explain-why-public-transit-is-safer-than-driving-scientific-american

There’s a common perception in the U.S. that taking public transit is dangerous. Headlines blare gruesome reports of people getting pushed in front of subway trains or attacked by strangers, stoking fear and anxiety. Last month President Donald Trump’s secretary of transportation threatened to withhold funding from the Metropolitan Transportation Authority—which runs the New York City subway and other public transit in New York State and Connecticut—unless it provided plans to reduce crime on the system.

But in reality, a closer look shows the safety risks of taking public transportation are relatively low. According to the data, driving a car in the U.S. is far more dangerous than taking public transit—in terms of crash risk and crime.
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