bearcat
Active Member
I am pretty sure @Monarch Butterfly meant the lack of political/institutional will as the difficulty.
There is certainly no insurmountable issues from a technical perspective. Other countries have figured it out.
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I am pretty sure @Monarch Butterfly meant the lack of political/institutional will as the difficulty.
There is certainly no insurmountable issues from a technical perspective. Other countries have figured it out.
DSCToronto
Superstar
The CEO Report notes:
"The TTC is also working on a pilot to develop automatic camera enforcement technology for motorists who pass open doors, which will capture the incident and license plate information. Testing is scheduled to begin late next year." Getting the OK from the Province to allow this was TTC policy for several years and was successful about 2 years ago. Good to see how much importance the TTC put on safety! If 'testing' only starts 'late next year', I assume we can expect a full roll-out by about 2030 and full implementation by 2050.
"The TTC is also working on a pilot to develop automatic camera enforcement technology for motorists who pass open doors, which will capture the incident and license plate information. Testing is scheduled to begin late next year." Getting the OK from the Province to allow this was TTC policy for several years and was successful about 2 years ago. Good to see how much importance the TTC put on safety! If 'testing' only starts 'late next year', I assume we can expect a full roll-out by about 2030 and full implementation by 2050.
Towered
Superstar
Won't be necessary - by then we'll all be chauffeured around by AI driven vehicles...
Monarch Butterfly
Superstar
Depends upon the "programming", if they give priority to the 200+ onboard streetcars or the zero people inside an AI vehicle.
AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
Or have AI write these CEO reports - because I am not sure if the natural intelligence quite suffices for the task.
AoD
81-717
Active Member
Or maybe upgrade the subway & the OL to an AI signaling system instead of ATC.
Monarch Butterfly
Superstar
If they used GPS properly, AI would "know" that bus "B" is 30 seconds behind bus "A" and slow down bus "B" to avoid bunching. Or adjust the traffic signals to give bus "A" priority with a longer green light to speed "A" up.
duffo
Active Member
You don't need AI to do this, it could be a fairly simple algorithm using the existing "Vision" CAD/AVL system
turbanplanner
Senior Member
Safety first!
Amare
Senior Member
All parties involved in this are laughing stalk embarrassments.
The Province, the City, the TTC. Every single last one of them who are involved in this are abhorrent clowns.
So we're going to get speed cameras on streetcars (if we're lucky), 10 years after a motion was made to install them:
No wonder nothing gets built/done on time in this city or province. We cant even do simple things like this efficiently.
drum118
Superstar
TTC Fare Inspectors to be known as Provincial Offences Officers
July 18, 2025
Beginning this Sun., July 20, TTC Fare Inspectors will be known as Provincial Offences Officers. They will continue to be responsible for fare compliance, education, and providing customer service across the system.
Starting this weekend, customers will notice employees in a new uniform, consisting of a grey shirt and vest identifying them as Provincial Offences Officers. They will continue to request proof of payment and could issue tickets to customers who have not paid the proper fare. Tickets for fare evasion range from $235 to $425.
The change in name and uniform is consistent with a 2019 Toronto Auditor General’s report that found an enhanced inspection presence could increase fare compliance.
The last TTC audit in 2023 found as much as $140 million is lost to fare evasion every year. That’s money that would otherwise go to enhance service, safety and cleanliness.
“The TTC receives a significant City of Toronto operating subsidy but also relies heavily on fares to support its operations. This transition to Provincial Offences Officers is one of several initiatives that we have rolled out recently to encourage fare compliance,” said TTC CEO Mandeep S. Lali. “We remind customers that when they choose not to pay their fare, it impacts our ability to increase service and keep fare prices low.”
This rebrand is another in a series of ongoing steps the TTC has taken to recoup lost revenue. Last year, the TTC began eliminating the ‘no-tap’ fare gates at subway stations to capture lost fares. Collectors were redeployed to assist those customers who require help with gates. In addition, the TTC has also introduced plain clothes inspectors across the system. Further changes include hiring more fare inspectors and introducing body-worn cameras and mobile ticketing.
More information on the TTC’s Fare Evasion program is available at https://www.ttc.ca/Fares-and-passes/Fare-information/Fare-evasion.
July 18, 2025
Beginning this Sun., July 20, TTC Fare Inspectors will be known as Provincial Offences Officers. They will continue to be responsible for fare compliance, education, and providing customer service across the system.
Starting this weekend, customers will notice employees in a new uniform, consisting of a grey shirt and vest identifying them as Provincial Offences Officers. They will continue to request proof of payment and could issue tickets to customers who have not paid the proper fare. Tickets for fare evasion range from $235 to $425.
The change in name and uniform is consistent with a 2019 Toronto Auditor General’s report that found an enhanced inspection presence could increase fare compliance.
The last TTC audit in 2023 found as much as $140 million is lost to fare evasion every year. That’s money that would otherwise go to enhance service, safety and cleanliness.
“The TTC receives a significant City of Toronto operating subsidy but also relies heavily on fares to support its operations. This transition to Provincial Offences Officers is one of several initiatives that we have rolled out recently to encourage fare compliance,” said TTC CEO Mandeep S. Lali. “We remind customers that when they choose not to pay their fare, it impacts our ability to increase service and keep fare prices low.”
This rebrand is another in a series of ongoing steps the TTC has taken to recoup lost revenue. Last year, the TTC began eliminating the ‘no-tap’ fare gates at subway stations to capture lost fares. Collectors were redeployed to assist those customers who require help with gates. In addition, the TTC has also introduced plain clothes inspectors across the system. Further changes include hiring more fare inspectors and introducing body-worn cameras and mobile ticketing.
More information on the TTC’s Fare Evasion program is available at https://www.ttc.ca/Fares-and-passes/Fare-information/Fare-evasion.
evandyk
Senior Member
I think having a more frequent visible presence would help a lot with compliance, but a rebrand? How is a different tag on their uniforms going to make a difference?
T3G
Senior Member
They themselves didn't think that far.
DSCToronto
Superstar
This is a typical TTC announcement. they will not just be known as Provincial Offences Officers, they will have been trained/certified to be Provincial Offences Officers and thus have some additional powers. If they are inspecting for those who have not paid their fare, they will still be "Fare Inspectors'.
Monarch Butterfly
Superstar
Maybe they should copy the ICE agent's uniform? That should get some fare compliance.
Fares please...