drum118
Superstar
Since the end of 2025 is round the corner as the drop dead date for accessibility requirements, what are TTC plans having doors at bus terminals to meet the requirements???
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Northern Light
Superstar
Did you mean 2024?
The target for compliance in the AODA is January 1st, 2025.
Currently, it appears the TTC is tracking to have to have 57/70 stations accessible by the deadline, with work to wrap at Glencairn and Castle Frank before year end.
Work will not be complete at Lawrence, Summerhill, Rosedale, College, King, Museum, Spadina Greenwood, Warden, Old Mill, Islington, High Park and Christie.
As to mitigation, the last I remember hearing of it was the September '23 report to the TTC Board:
From the above:
evandyk
Senior Member
It's not like stations like King, College, Lawrence, Islington are used by a lot of people. Obviously people with disabilities can just avoid those stations.
81-717
Active Member
I'm assuming this is sarcasm? King and College are in the downtown Yonge stretch, and do get pretty crowded (not that I've used that stretch in months ever since I happily switched to biking whenever possible). Lawrence is at least 2 km away from any other stations, so not really an option for someone, especially a disabled person, to make their own way to some other station. Islington isn't exactly close to Kipling or Royal York either.
evandyk
Senior Member
Yeah, that was sarcasm! The TTC's last ridership by station stats are from 2022 and King and College are both within the top 5 or so. Probably the two busiest non-transfer or -terminus stations other than Dundas.
Richard White
Senior Member
Stores are starting to close at Warden in the Bus Bays.
This tracks with the previously noted timeline for the bus bay closures.
This tracks with the previously noted timeline for the bus bay closures.
drum118
Superstar
I am talking about doors to the bus platforms at bus terminals and a typo on my end. I know a number of stations will not meet the 2025 date especially Warden and Islington. Islington has a hole in the ground for the new stations with parts of the concourse block off with hording beyond where the walkway will be to the new terminal as well on the platform.
Northern Light
Superstar
I believe the TTC finished putting in one or two sets of sliding doors, at every station w/the exception of Warden/Islington for obvious reasons.
I believe, you are indicating that this is required at every single bus bay? I was unaware of such a requirement. (not saying you're wrong, just not personally recalling that)
Molybdenum
Active Member
There is no such requirement for bus bay doors in the AODA standards.
Also, TTC has yet to announce this but as of last week elevators are in operation and open to the public at Glencairn Station.
Mind_the_gap
Active Member
With parking at Wilson being eliminated, I hope the new plan for the lot allows for the S-curve on the bus roadway to be eliminated. Meeting Wilson Heights at Ansford would be a more direct route for the 104 and 160/Wilson services. That curve is now just an unnecessary relic of the past.
drum118
Superstar
TTC and ATU showcase proposed bus design at ATU Canada conference
Oct. 17, 2024
The TTC and ATU continue to collaborate with Centennial College on the Bus Design Innovation Project, improving security and providing bus operators with a healthier environment. The innovative design was most recently showcased at the ATU Canada Conference 2024 in September. Transit stakeholders provided feedback on the design, which will be used to further refine the project.
Building on best practices from transit agencies globally, the design provides a complete barrier that shields a bus operator’s workspace from the passenger compartment – greatly reducing the risk of being assaulted, while maintaining a clear unobstructed view of both mirrors to ensure safe operation of the vehicle.
“Safety and security are paramount to the TTC, and we are very pleased to continue working alongside ATU to find ways to better protect our operators,” said TTC Chair Jamaal Myers. “I look forward to additional updates on this project, as we continue to refine the design.”
“Protecting our bus operators from assaults is a priority for us, and this design will greatly improve the security and safety of our bus operators,” said TTC Interim CEO Greg Percy. “I want to thank our union partners and Centennial College for this incredibly important partnership with the TTC.”
“With the number of assaults on public transit, our union has been leading the way in the industry on safety and security,” said ATU International President John Costa. “This partnership with the TTC and Centennial College is creating a prototype bus to improve bus operator security, vision from blind spots, ergonomics, and biohazard protections. It will revolutionize the design of our bus fleets to ensure the health and safety of our bus operators and our riders.”
The TTC and ATU Local 113, working together with ATU International and Centennial College, have also been working on a system that will improve air quality and the health of passengers and operators.
“Improved Health and Safety standards in public transit is crucial. Through the Bus Design Innovation Program, we have an opportunity to develop a new global benchmark in bus design and safety. Transit Professionals have the right to a safe and healthy work environment just as our ridership deserves to feel safe and secure when choosing public transportation,” said Marvin Alfred, President of ATU 113. “Increased protection is needed due to the sharp rise in incidences of violence against our members and riders. The safety and security of all who use public transportation is our highest priority and preventing injuries and saving lives is worth fighting for.”
The TTC and ATU Local 113, working together with ATU International and Centennial College, have also been working on a system that will improve air quality and the health of passengers and operators.
The TTC and ATU will continue to gather feedback throughout the year at upcoming conferences and employee events. Further updates on this project will be presented publicly through upcoming TTC Board meetings.
Oct. 17, 2024
The TTC and ATU continue to collaborate with Centennial College on the Bus Design Innovation Project, improving security and providing bus operators with a healthier environment. The innovative design was most recently showcased at the ATU Canada Conference 2024 in September. Transit stakeholders provided feedback on the design, which will be used to further refine the project.
Building on best practices from transit agencies globally, the design provides a complete barrier that shields a bus operator’s workspace from the passenger compartment – greatly reducing the risk of being assaulted, while maintaining a clear unobstructed view of both mirrors to ensure safe operation of the vehicle.
“Safety and security are paramount to the TTC, and we are very pleased to continue working alongside ATU to find ways to better protect our operators,” said TTC Chair Jamaal Myers. “I look forward to additional updates on this project, as we continue to refine the design.”
“Protecting our bus operators from assaults is a priority for us, and this design will greatly improve the security and safety of our bus operators,” said TTC Interim CEO Greg Percy. “I want to thank our union partners and Centennial College for this incredibly important partnership with the TTC.”
“With the number of assaults on public transit, our union has been leading the way in the industry on safety and security,” said ATU International President John Costa. “This partnership with the TTC and Centennial College is creating a prototype bus to improve bus operator security, vision from blind spots, ergonomics, and biohazard protections. It will revolutionize the design of our bus fleets to ensure the health and safety of our bus operators and our riders.”
The TTC and ATU Local 113, working together with ATU International and Centennial College, have also been working on a system that will improve air quality and the health of passengers and operators.
“Improved Health and Safety standards in public transit is crucial. Through the Bus Design Innovation Program, we have an opportunity to develop a new global benchmark in bus design and safety. Transit Professionals have the right to a safe and healthy work environment just as our ridership deserves to feel safe and secure when choosing public transportation,” said Marvin Alfred, President of ATU 113. “Increased protection is needed due to the sharp rise in incidences of violence against our members and riders. The safety and security of all who use public transportation is our highest priority and preventing injuries and saving lives is worth fighting for.”
The TTC and ATU Local 113, working together with ATU International and Centennial College, have also been working on a system that will improve air quality and the health of passengers and operators.
The TTC and ATU will continue to gather feedback throughout the year at upcoming conferences and employee events. Further updates on this project will be presented publicly through upcoming TTC Board meetings.
Amare
Senior Member
Although he's only the interim CEO, looks like Percy (by his own words) is looking to make an effort to be more visble compared to the previous useless CEO Rick Leary:
torontosun.com
Let's see how things play out.
PERCY: Familiar challenges bring new opportunities for renewed swagger at TTC
At the top of my list is restoring the public’s trust in the TTC. You need to know, see and experience that we really are the better way
torontosun.com
Let's see how things play out.
Jonny5
Senior Member
For anyone interested in seeing this, there's shots of it in this news video clip from CHCH.
Basically, the operator compartment has what's much more like an actual full door that opens and closes to enter. It's plexiglass (or whatever material that is) from about the waist up level if you were standing beside it, and there's one of those little round hole-punch portals you can talk through to the operator, like on streetcars.
You don't really see it clearly until almost the very end of the video where they show someone sitting down and closing it (and I feel for the camera guy dispatched to get 20 seconds of footage of this scintillating event of people looking at a door).
ATU showcases proposed bus design to enhance transit safety
The Amalgamated Transit Union (ATU) is showcasing its latest bus design, with the goal of lowering the risk of transit assaults.
www.chch.com
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drum118
Superstar
Oct 20
First of all, when or is TTC planning on up dating their crappy PA system on the trains and platforms?? Heard a lot of announcements at 9:30 am on my trip from Kipling, and no clue what was been announced. People around me started to look at each other to say what is going on. At one point, someone asked what was being said and what was happening. A few responding no idea and cannot understand what is happening or said.
Second: Stop by Russell yard and the the last phase has started for the yard as well the tracks from Queen St, New poles along the north end with new overhead from Queen for the west end. All the tracks that have been rebuilt with the new overhead system, the overhead system has the bracket off the poles like QQ, Fort York and St Clair ROW.
This will not be done until summer 2025.
Third: The city really screw up traffic and transit this weekend and time the city moves the marathons and cycling events out of the core. There wasn't one street that I waked today that wasn't gridlock, drives trying to disobeyed Road close signs, make illegal left turn. The City had traffic disobeying no through traffic on King, but they only made it to Yonge. I ended up buying more groceries that became to heavy to walk around and photographing, I call it a day late in the afternoon. Waiting for an eastbound car at Ontario St and seeing none after 5 minute with a pile of westbound car, decided to walk to Yonge. I ended up waking to Yonge faster than the 4 westbound cars trying to get to Church with a mob of riders waiting for an eastbound car at Church.
As a note, I ended up getting off a 501 a few stops before where I was planning to get off at after leaving Russell as it was gridlock. After taking a few photographs where I had planned to get off at, the streetcar I was on was approaching me.
Fourth: Hit Bloor station and Line 2 platform was pack full that you thought it was peak time that was an hour away for a Sunday, let along a weekday. Both trains arrived with peak load with crew of my train advising riders to not to board it as it was already full with another train 2 minutes behind this one. After waking 23,000 steps and tidied, I wasn't prepared to stand a 30 minute ride and waited for that train Two minutes later the other train show up almost empty. Announcement was made just before Jane, the train was going out of service at Jane to go back eastbound with another train 2 minutes behind my train. Two minutes later the other train arrived and still got a seat to sit down.
Fifth: Don't see much change for the tunnel roof and getting close that said date it will be done by this year.
Sixth: With construction of Kipling Station Condos underway, the retraining wall is 90% gone with a large area that shows how wide that sidewalk can be once the tower is built. the other 10% belongs to TTC and the city. This would be a great time to widen the existing sidewalk from the retraining wall to the new sidewalk where Subway Cr used to be to deal the the pedestrians flow that is too big for the old sidewalk.
Photos will follow at some later date due to my backlog and only working on Sept 17 photos now.
First of all, when or is TTC planning on up dating their crappy PA system on the trains and platforms?? Heard a lot of announcements at 9:30 am on my trip from Kipling, and no clue what was been announced. People around me started to look at each other to say what is going on. At one point, someone asked what was being said and what was happening. A few responding no idea and cannot understand what is happening or said.
Second: Stop by Russell yard and the the last phase has started for the yard as well the tracks from Queen St, New poles along the north end with new overhead from Queen for the west end. All the tracks that have been rebuilt with the new overhead system, the overhead system has the bracket off the poles like QQ, Fort York and St Clair ROW.
This will not be done until summer 2025.
Third: The city really screw up traffic and transit this weekend and time the city moves the marathons and cycling events out of the core. There wasn't one street that I waked today that wasn't gridlock, drives trying to disobeyed Road close signs, make illegal left turn. The City had traffic disobeying no through traffic on King, but they only made it to Yonge. I ended up buying more groceries that became to heavy to walk around and photographing, I call it a day late in the afternoon. Waiting for an eastbound car at Ontario St and seeing none after 5 minute with a pile of westbound car, decided to walk to Yonge. I ended up waking to Yonge faster than the 4 westbound cars trying to get to Church with a mob of riders waiting for an eastbound car at Church.
As a note, I ended up getting off a 501 a few stops before where I was planning to get off at after leaving Russell as it was gridlock. After taking a few photographs where I had planned to get off at, the streetcar I was on was approaching me.
Fourth: Hit Bloor station and Line 2 platform was pack full that you thought it was peak time that was an hour away for a Sunday, let along a weekday. Both trains arrived with peak load with crew of my train advising riders to not to board it as it was already full with another train 2 minutes behind this one. After waking 23,000 steps and tidied, I wasn't prepared to stand a 30 minute ride and waited for that train Two minutes later the other train show up almost empty. Announcement was made just before Jane, the train was going out of service at Jane to go back eastbound with another train 2 minutes behind my train. Two minutes later the other train arrived and still got a seat to sit down.
Fifth: Don't see much change for the tunnel roof and getting close that said date it will be done by this year.
Sixth: With construction of Kipling Station Condos underway, the retraining wall is 90% gone with a large area that shows how wide that sidewalk can be once the tower is built. the other 10% belongs to TTC and the city. This would be a great time to widen the existing sidewalk from the retraining wall to the new sidewalk where Subway Cr used to be to deal the the pedestrians flow that is too big for the old sidewalk.
Photos will follow at some later date due to my backlog and only working on Sept 17 photos now.
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nfitz
Superstar
It is indeed annoying on the platforms when the announcer has a clearly staticky announcement, but the automated announcements in the station are crystal clear.
That and the quick speed most of them try and make the announcement.
That and the quick speed most of them try and make the announcement.