I am genuinely concerned that by the time the train reaches around Finch or Sheppard, there will be no more room for Toronto passengers to board.
 
TOtramz said:
I am genuinely concerned that by the time the train reaches around Finch or Sheppard, there will be no more room for Toronto passengers to board.
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a) This was discussed to death like 10 years ago.
b) What's a "Toronto Passenger"? Are we checking passports? Is someone going from Finch to Highway 7 a "Toronto Passenger" but not the person travelling from Highway 7 to Finch? What if someone currently lives at Clark and drives to Finch? What if someone lives at Steeles, walks north across the street to buy a slushie at the gas station and then walks back south to catch the bus to Finch? Can you ID a "Toronto passenger" at a distance?
c) Again, this was discussed to death like years ago. We haven't kept pace with growth but not-building transit doesn't solve that problem. This isn't the only thing we can or should do do.
d) Thanks to COVID, TTC ridership is something like 70-75% of what it was 10 years ago
 
Undead said:
The OL, Bloor Yonge expansion and ATC are intended to help with that.
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None of those will help the Yonge Line come 2050 as where are you planning on putting riders from all those new towers along Yonge in the coming decades as within a haft a mile of the line? Even more as density expands away from the line. Look at the plans for Steeles/Yonge, Eglinton and what is on the books to happen now.

If the OL gets extended to Steeles like it should a few decades ago or even Hwy 7, it will help to decrease the pressure on the Yonge line for a few decades depending when it happens. After 2050, you need another Yonge line that will handle 8-10 car express trains with another alignment south of Eglinton as those stations will never handle the ridership from 2 lines let alone today.
 
Ervin said:
The omission of Cummer station seems incredibly foolish
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It would have been nice but most current and future Cummer residents are still close to Finch or Steeles.

Besides, more people getting on at Cummer means more North York Passengers filling up the trains before it gets to stations where real Torontonians live, like Eglinton and Bloor. 😁
 
It would've been nice if the province spent the money that they've chosen to piss away on say for instance...deep boring the tunnel near Royal Orchard, on a Cummer station instead. It's clear the money is there, but the province has no interest in building the station.

But alas here we are, and it doesnt seem like there's any provision in place the add it as an infill station in the future (not that it would happen if there was a provision in place anyways because..Toronto/Ontario politics).
 
Steeles station is forecasted to be completed by year 2041 lol. Flying cars before that..

IIRC, didn't metrolinx have the date 2031 up on their page originally?

Edit: "*Forecast for the year 2041" footnote is regarding the expected *Key Facts*

www.metrolinx.com

Steeles Station

A future transit hub located along the boundary of the City of Toronto and York Region.
www.metrolinx.com
 
raadthedeveloper said:
Steeles station is forecasted to be completed by year 2041 lol. Flying cars before that..

IIRC, didn't metrolinx have the date 2031 up on their page originally?

Edit: "*Forecast for the year 2041" footnote is regarding the expected *Key Facts*

www.metrolinx.com

Steeles Station

A future transit hub located along the boundary of the City of Toronto and York Region.
www.metrolinx.com
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The TYSSE's contract was awarded in 2008 and opened in 2017, 11 years later.
Eglinton started in 2011 and might open this fall, almost 15 years later.
2041 is 16 years from now. It may be that Metrolinx wants to give a more realistic timeline so that they can open it sooner and look better.

My guess is 2035-2041would be when this extension could open by.
 
raadthedeveloper said:
Steeles station is forecasted to be completed by year 2041 lol. Flying cars before that..

IIRC, didn't metrolinx have the date 2031 up on their page originally?

Edit: "*Forecast for the year 2041" footnote is regarding the expected *Key Facts*

www.metrolinx.com

Steeles Station

A future transit hub located along the boundary of the City of Toronto and York Region.
www.metrolinx.com
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The year 2041 is in reference to the ridership forecasts. It has nothing to do with the expected completion date for the project.
 
TOtramz said:
I am genuinely concerned that by the time the train reaches around Finch or Sheppard, there will be no more room for Toronto passengers to board.
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Finch and Sheppard will be fine, still plenty of capacity. On the other hand, capacity south of Eglinton and especially south of Bloor is a legitimate concern. Which will be addressed by the construction of Ontario Line to some extent.

Yonge North + Ontario Line = still crowded, but not to the point of becoming inoperable.
 
innsertnamehere said:
Interesting - the final EA for the project:


Actually has tail and storage tracks extending north of 16th Avenue! Why not build a station there?
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Based on the drawing, that may be the intention unofficially. Probably won't open together with other station to avoid the appearance of a 'scope creep', but might become an easy addition soon after the extension opens.
 
drum118 said:
After 2050, you need another Yonge line that will handle 8-10 car express trains with another alignment south of Eglinton as those stations will never handle the ridership from 2 lines let alone today.
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I'd love to see another Yonge line under the existing Yonge line, and I believe the Bay alignment south of Davenport is the right way of handling that.

Eglinton to Davenport is a bit more tricky, but a few options exist.
 
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