rdaner
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longfortheoldview
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It's a pretty dead pedestrian area, I can't imagine this courtyard(?) will see much traffic.
Are those tables & chairs bolted down
Are those tables & chairs bolted down
AlbertC
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I think we can be assured that @Towered will be be working out there on a weekly basis going forward, with scrawny neighbourhood kids watching and wondering where they could get tights like that.It's a pretty dead pedestrian area, I can't imagine this courtyard(?) will see much traffic.
Are those tables & chairs bolted down
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Undead
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Glad he found a new venue after Filmores shut down!
beepboop
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I'm not sure I've ever said a kind word about Turner Fleischer but there's a first time for everything.
I think the frontage here was actually handled well - the brick, the channel details, the rhythm that the pilasters create... it's at least better than the walls of glass we've all learned to expect.
I think the frontage here was actually handled well - the brick, the channel details, the rhythm that the pilasters create... it's at least better than the walls of glass we've all learned to expect.
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christiesplits
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By POPS standards, this looks pretty... good? Bulky garbage bins notwithstanding. Would love to hear verdicts from @Northern Light and @AlexBozikovic.
Northern Light
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The building. More brick than usual at grade is good. Glass overhangs, always bad. Pigeon roost in the making, messy. Probably won't be cleaned either.
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Tree planters look to have a decent volume, but I'm never a bit fan of concrete boxes, with plain, un-dyed, un-patterned concrete. At best, its grey, not great looking and it does mean the tree roots get reduced room as well which impairs their long term growth.
At worst, the concrete invites graffiti and can look exceptionally dirty over time, prone to chipping.
IF you had to go to above-grade planters due to utility conflicts, so be it.
But then either dye and pattern the concrete or cap it in limestone or granite. Bare concrete is just ugly here.
AlexBozikovic
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I also quite like this building. The best thing I’ve seen from TF. The base is pretty much exemplary. The rest of the building is overcomplicated - why so many materials and moves? - but it could be much worse.
At street level, I think it’s absurd to combine pavers and city concrete. That should be one material, one way or the other. And I concur with @Northern Light about the fortifications/ planters.
The streetscape in front of new developments is the largest area of focus for city urban design. This result is bad in multiple dimensions and they need to figure out a new approach.
But let’s be honest about the site. Dupont is a terrible street and it is never in our lifetimes going to be particularly walkable. The back of this building has a huge crash wall to protect it from the rail.
housing belongs on the side streets and not here. There’s only so much the architecture and urban design can do to remedy that.
At street level, I think it’s absurd to combine pavers and city concrete. That should be one material, one way or the other. And I concur with @Northern Light about the fortifications/ planters.
The streetscape in front of new developments is the largest area of focus for city urban design. This result is bad in multiple dimensions and they need to figure out a new approach.
But let’s be honest about the site. Dupont is a terrible street and it is never in our lifetimes going to be particularly walkable. The back of this building has a huge crash wall to protect it from the rail.
housing belongs on the side streets and not here. There’s only so much the architecture and urban design can do to remedy that.