I've heard from some people that have visited the Iron Cow that it's meh, which kind of sucks, but I suppose is expected.

Which is unfortunate, because Rizzo's was soo good.
 
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I've heard from some people that have visited the Iron Cow that it's meh, which kind of sucks, but I suppose is expected.

Which is unfortunate, because Rizzo's was soo good.
I enjoyed the food but if I'm thinking about where I want to go for dinner in Hamilton, it's not even in the conversation unless I'm going to TD Coliseum. I think it does what it is meant to as a high volume arena restaurant. Nice ambiance and it does the pub food well but it's still pub food at the end of the day.

Now Rizzo's, definitely worth the drive.
 
Rizzo's House of Parm - Matty Matheson's original location in his hometown of Fort Erie (Crystal Beach area) has the best gnocchi I've ever had in my life. Melts in your mouth. (Handmade Ricotta Gnocchi with cream & pecorino romano). Matty's Salad was also one of the most delicious salads I've had at any restaurant.
American folks regularly drive across the border from Buffalo/Western NY to have dinner at Rizzo's.
 
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Out of all of the renders of the renovated arena, I think this one excited me the most. It is the street-level concourse (I believe on the York Boulevard side) and it looks so wide and roomy and pleasant and comfortable. Unfortunately, the actual new concourse feels much darker and tighter and more cramped and somehow less arena-like to me.
 
My understanding was that the arena was in dire need of repairs. Based on watching almost daily, it appears the money went toward a few things that I suspect wouldn't be immediately obvious:

1) Completely new HVAC system.

2) All new kitchen ventilation hardware.

3) I believe all elevators and escalators were replaced or heavily refurbished. Prior city reports indicated all escalators were at their end of life.

4) They resealed the roof.

5) Derusted and painted the entire exterior.

6) Replaced numerous exterior windows.

7) Replaced every single chair (quality notwithstanding).

8) Replaced all lighting in the entire venue, inside and out. This includes running all new electrical through most of the facility.

9) I could be wrong, but I believe the bathrooms had fully new fixtures installed, his means new toilets, stalls, sinks, etc.

10) Restructured much of the interior removing stairs to York Blvd.

11) Hundreds of employees on site most days, earning salary. (100 employees making $60,000/year multiplied by 1.5 years is $9,000,000 alone.

12) Permits, financing costs, crane and equipment rental.

Things are expensive. For a completely perfect arena, you'd likely be looking at $500,000,000-$700,000,000. Rogers centre cost $400,000,000, but was in my opinion better maintained, and most of the upgrades were smaller more quality of life upgrades.
You're not wrong at all. And I understand the purpose and intended tenants of the arena. But for me, as a life long Hamiltonian who's worked in local planning, I want us to take that step forward and shake off that old reputation.

We're getting there. But seeing the new arenas in Edmonton, Calgary, Quebec City, Ottawa and several American ones, it's hard not to feel like other places get better stuff and we still have to just be happy we got something at all.

I'm tired of feeling that way.

Like you say, maybe the $300M in additional spending over the years will fill that gap.
 
I am looking at the sunk investment as the initial canvas. No doubt it's the riskiest investment, and hopefully will pay out in spades for OVG. As it becomes a proven venue with targeted live dates, I am certain others will layer on.
 
I am looking at the sunk investment as the initial canvas. No doubt it's the riskiest investment, and hopefully will pay out in spades for OVG. As it becomes a proven venue with targeted live dates, I am certain others will layer on.
Not sure what you mean. The arena is as good as it is going to get. The dollars from here will just be maintenance and maybe some refreshes
 
Most enterprises will always look to find ways to improve revenue lift (unless you are Yale with Jackson Square). So certainly OVG will focus on filling out the venue's dance card. Beyond that, they will look to add features that will enhance revenue and customer experience. Maybe that entails expansion out to Bay and York/Wilson, or eating into Jackson Square footprint on the ground or plaza level. Again, not in the first few years, but if all goes well, I could see something within 5 years. Once the SallyAnn gets moved, maybe we will get a hint on what could be possible for the whole north side of the complex.
 
You're not wrong at all. And I understand the purpose and intended tenants of the arena. But for me, as a life long Hamiltonian who's worked in local planning, I want us to take that step forward and shake off that old reputation.

We're getting there. But seeing the new arenas in Edmonton, Calgary, Quebec City, Ottawa and several American ones, it's hard not to feel like other places get better stuff and we still have to just be happy we got something at all.

I'm tired of feeling that way.

Like you say, maybe the $300M in additional spending over the years will fill that gap.

That's literally been everyones mentality for hamilton, that we could be doing better, but we should be grateful we are getting anything at all - it's a sucky mentality.

Also what's happened to that entire block of jackson square is a crime, imo they should just demolish most of it. It's a pale shadow of what it was.
 

Hamilton NBA star Shai Gilgeous-Alexander now part owner of downtown arena

Having the Oklahoma City Thunder star forward and last year’s NBA MVP involved in TD Coliseum could help lure artists and athletes to downtown Hamilton.

Feb. 9, 2026 By Scott Radley Hamilton Spectator

Shai Gilgeous-Alexander plays basketball in an awful lot of arenas around North America.
Now he’s about to become a part owner of one.
Oak View Group announced Monday morning, the Hamilton product is investing in TD Coliseum.
“Becoming part of the ownership group at TD Coliseum is really personal for me,” Gilgeous-Alexander said in a statement released by OVG, which renovated and operates the facility.
“Growing up in Hamilton shaped who I am, so having the opportunity to help build something special in my hometown means everything.”
What does this mean in practical terms?
No, they’re not changing its name to Shai Stadium, though there will be an atrium on the York Boulevard side that’ll be named Ares Atrium after his almost-two-year-old son.
It sounds like the real impact could be in events.

 

Hamilton NBA star Shai Gilgeous-Alexander now part owner of downtown arena

Having the Oklahoma City Thunder star forward and last year’s NBA MVP involved in TD Coliseum could help lure artists and athletes to downtown Hamilton.

Feb. 9, 2026 By Scott Radley Hamilton Spectator

Shai Gilgeous-Alexander plays basketball in an awful lot of arenas around North America.
Now he’s about to become a part owner of one.
Oak View Group announced Monday morning, the Hamilton product is investing in TD Coliseum.
“Becoming part of the ownership group at TD Coliseum is really personal for me,” Gilgeous-Alexander said in a statement released by OVG, which renovated and operates the facility.
“Growing up in Hamilton shaped who I am, so having the opportunity to help build something special in my hometown means everything.”
What does this mean in practical terms?
No, they’re not changing its name to Shai Stadium, though there will be an atrium on the York Boulevard side that’ll be named Ares Atrium after his almost-two-year-old son.
It sounds like the real impact could be in events.

I could see Thunder training camp + Thunder / Raptors preseason game... heck, maybe a regular season game.
 
Most enterprises will always look to find ways to improve revenue lift (unless you are Yale with Jackson Square). So certainly OVG will focus on filling out the venue's dance card. Beyond that, they will look to add features that will enhance revenue and customer experience. Maybe that entails expansion out to Bay and York/Wilson, or eating into Jackson Square footprint on the ground or plaza level. Again, not in the first few years, but if all goes well, I could see something within 5 years. Once the SallyAnn gets moved, maybe we will get a hint on what could be possible for the whole north side of the complex.
Place Bell in Laval is a similar venue (capacity at 10,000) and it has a large sports bar on the ground level that is setup to be accessible without an event ticket, so it's actually open every day. It would be a great addition to have that at the TD Coliseum. There's even a patio space for the summer.


Also you can see the streetscape is done very well there to handle large numbers of people coming and going. The Laval cops actually block off the whole block for any event, which is something they should do in Hamilton too for Bay Street. Block it between all of King and York from 6 p.m. and pedestrianize the whole road.
 
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I could see Thunder training camp + Thunder / Raptors preseason game... heck, maybe a regular season game.
The AHL All-Star Classic is this week, starting tomorrow. That means the Board of Governors meeting will be today.
There's a high chance if the rumoured move of the Bridgeport Islanders to Hamilton will happen it will be officially confirmed by tomorrow.
 

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