TheKingEast
Senior Member
I like it. Lets build it!
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Transportfan
Senior Member
It looks like Yonge and QQ are getting their curb lanes removed. I think that makes the street look ridiculous.
TonyV
Senior Member
The renderporn shows the crane in L-tower in the background. Snap-snap-snap and meow 
wmedia
Senior Member
Nice to also see the Bay on-ramp and Jarvis off-ramp gone in the renderings.
AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
The other question is - what/where will the PATH bridge connect to? There is almost nothing on the other side of Gardiner/Lake Shore.
AoD
AoD
Don't read too much into the lane painting on that site plan, that's all just an "artist's impression". None of that has been finalized yet anyway, and some turning arrows in particular do not make any sense.
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The PATH bridge will go to CIBC Square. CIBC Square is getting a Yonge Street access to its parking garage/loading docks between 18 Yonge and the Rail Corridor. A PATH connection will be built over that, bridging Yonge, continuing a bit east, then turning south under the Gardiner.
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3Dementia
Senior Member
I like the super tall but for some reason I'll seeing a hint of The One re-imagined with facets/angles... sitting on the One Bloor East podium lol. But I'm nuts of course...
3Dementia
Senior Member
This podium.
agoraflaneur
Active Member
I'm generally happy with the design direction they are going in here. But I do wonder why the public square is being planned for the northwest corner. Who would want to linger in a place with the looming presence of the Gardiner and little else of interest? The square will also lie in the shadow of the tall buildings - at least in the morning/early afternoon.
Why not instead have a public square on the southeast corner? If I understand correctly, there is to be a park across the street, which would seem to me to be a much more inviting location.
The only line of thinking I can follow is that a public square would help to draw people into the site who are coming south on Yonge.
Why not instead have a public square on the southeast corner? If I understand correctly, there is to be a park across the street, which would seem to me to be a much more inviting location.
The only line of thinking I can follow is that a public square would help to draw people into the site who are coming south on Yonge.
Why are you assuming that there will be little of interest? It's quite possible that if the City does launch a design competition for the space, we could end up with something compelling there. Certainly that's the hope of the DRP.
In terms of practicality, the City owns the land the public square is planned for. I don't know how quickly the Lake Shore/Harbour changes can be made to the road network in the area, but it's possible that the S-curve won't be able to be eliminated "immediately" (however long a scope of time that is), dependent to a degree on the length of time it takes to redevelop the LCBO Lands to the east I assume. With that unknown, I imagine that Pinnacle would not be too interested in swapping land with the City.
You are right that the City views the square as a way to draw people into the site from Yonge, and then into the new north-south passageway through the middle of the block, which s important to the success of the development here. That then also puts them closer to the new neighbourhood to the east.
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In terms of practicality, the City owns the land the public square is planned for. I don't know how quickly the Lake Shore/Harbour changes can be made to the road network in the area, but it's possible that the S-curve won't be able to be eliminated "immediately" (however long a scope of time that is), dependent to a degree on the length of time it takes to redevelop the LCBO Lands to the east I assume. With that unknown, I imagine that Pinnacle would not be too interested in swapping land with the City.
You are right that the City views the square as a way to draw people into the site from Yonge, and then into the new north-south passageway through the middle of the block, which s important to the success of the development here. That then also puts them closer to the new neighbourhood to the east.
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Toronto1834
Active Member
My hope is that the lower Yonge Transportation EA is followed and the Bay & Jarvis ramp overpasses will be removed from Yonge street opening up another 15m or so, giving more room so the public space doesn't feel squished against the Gardiner.
agoraflaneur
Active Member
Thanks i42, now I understand the logic behind the square placement. If it could put timelines in jeopardy, depending on the elimination of the S-curve is not something I would want to do if I were Pinnacle.
I really hope a design competition will yield something compelling enough to make people want to linger and entice them to explore the site. I look forward to the ideas that come forward.
I really hope a design competition will yield something compelling enough to make people want to linger and entice them to explore the site. I look forward to the ideas that come forward.
So, I have a bit of a surprise: lots more to look at from last week's Design Review Panel meeting. Have fun!
The are also some further scale model pics in a new front page story, along with more detail on what is presented at the Design Review Panel meetings. Check it out here.
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The are also some further scale model pics in a new front page story, along with more detail on what is presented at the Design Review Panel meetings. Check it out here.
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ADRM
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Man, those scale models are a tease -- would've been so nice if that bronzing effect carried through to the design; that would've injected some nice colour in the sea of blue.
