d3uS2029
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Northern Light
Superstar
Not a reasonable post.
If you think Drum has said something inaccurate, so be it, but you need to identify in your post what you think is inaccurate in his post, and then provide evidence of same.
d3uS2029
New Member
Unfortunately, I cannot comment any further due to the nature of my profession.
sixrings
Senior Member
Nice. We’re going to have the battle of people who know everything but can’t comment any further because of their profession. This is going to be great.
Northern Light
Superstar
Is that a slag on me? Sure reads that way; I share mountains of detail here on all sorts of things; sure there are limits on what I can say; but I don't just make cryptic posts.
sixrings
Senior Member
I know. I’m just frustrated everytime you tell me to be patient on the Milton line and nothing ever seems to come of it. We’re in election season and still nothing. Maybe someone does know what’s going on but being told to be patient seems like asking for a lot for those who use this line.
Northern Light
Superstar
Official Groundbreaking for this one, this morning.
Here's the presser:
news.ontario.ca
From the above:
Here's the presser:
Ontario Newsroom
news.ontario.ca
From the above:
ShonTron
Moderator
Is Mississauga a growing community?
I mean Brampton – which has a larger population than Mississauga has to settle for half a second hospital. Maybe because there isn’t a friendly rich developer/“friend of the premier” looking to slap their name all over a Brampton facility unlike Vaughan, Mississauga, or Toronto.
I mean Brampton – which has a larger population than Mississauga has to settle for half a second hospital. Maybe because there isn’t a friendly rich developer/“friend of the premier” looking to slap their name all over a Brampton facility unlike Vaughan, Mississauga, or Toronto.
TwinHuey
Active Member
It would be nice to see a heliport in the plan.
ShonTron
Moderator
Why?
Unless this hospital contains a trauma centre (and it won’t) there’s no need for a heliport. It’s faster to just send a critical patient by land ambulance to St. Mike’s, Sunnybrook, Sick Kids, or Hamilton.
Rural hospitals are much more in need of heliports.
Northern Light
Superstar
I don't know that it will be this site, but I do expect to see a new Trauma Centre designated between downtown Toronto and Hamilton.
Ontario added six new Level 3 Trauma Centres last couple of years.
Guelph, Peterborough, Barrie, Cornwall, New Market....and one other......
I know the CCSO and the Ministry are mulling at least a few more.......Durham Region, West GTA, and K-W
Level 3s feed into Level 2 (Thunder Bay, Kingston, Hamilton, London, Ottawa, Sudbury etc.)
And into Level 1 - St.Mike's and Sunnybrook.
I expect you'll see more Level 2 as well in time. Level 1 will probably remain the prerogative of Toronto, unless they add Ottawa.
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Whether that merits a helipad is a different issue, and I frankly lack the requisite knowledge to speak on that.
khaldoon
Active Member
Yes Mississauga tax payers are still stuck subsidizing Brampton (e.g. paying 62% of the regional police service.)
TwinHuey
Active Member
We do have heliports that serve a purpose at hospitals reasonably close to the trauma centres (Ajax Lake Ridge, Markham Stouffville, Mississauga Credit Valley).
Based on my experience, these heliports are used not only to airlift patients to trauma centres, but also to bring in specialized transport teams from the Hospital for Sick Children.
It may be helpful to hear from those in health care (@PL1 ?) as my background is aviation, but the EMS helicopters are equipped as flying intensive care units staffed with critical care paramedics providing care that is not normally available in the land ambulances.
I'm no expert in engineering / design / development (@ProjectEnd ?), but if included in the initial planning of a new building, a hospital heliport is reasonably inexpensive. The helideck kit is approximately US$500K and pretty much turn key (lighting, safety nets, snow melt, fire suppression, fuel spill, etc). This is the same helideck kit used at St. Michaels Hospital, Sunnybrook Health Sciences and Hamilton.
All that is required is elevator access to the roof including a small entrance vestibule. I would like to think this should be easy to do in the planning. Is this considered cost prohibitive?
ShonTron
Moderator
What does this have to do with hospitals?
Sauga89
Active Member
It doesn't have anything to do with hospitals, although it's relevant to the larger discussion about whether Brampton or Mississauga gets better treatment from the province. You're probably right that Brampton deserves a better second hospital, but Khaldoon's point about Brampton getting better treatment in other ways is also somewhat valid I think.