[Bureaucromancer]

If this is the case, I suspect some type of interim Bus solution is best instead of waiting a couple of decades to start anything.
I think Long Branch (LE GO) - Sherway - Kipling (MI GO + Line B) - Renforth (Line E) - T3 - T1 - Woodbine (KI GO) - Humber (Line F). and maybe a couple of other stops too.
Google Maps tells me it's 80 minutes for 37 km. add 10 minutes for stops and that's 25 km/h average speed. A bit of roadwork for bus jump lanes would be needed, so it's not free - but it's relatively cheap and relatively fast to get into service. Some stops (Woodbine KI GO and Renforth Line E) can be omitted at first.

Note, Line B = Line 2, Line E = Line 5, Line F = Line 6.
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The major problem with this is that it is so deeply into the realm of nothing being so permanent as a temporary solution.

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

Curious. Could Doug Ford thinking about a new site for his "needed" convention centre become part of the Pearson Transit Hub. Having Line 5 and Line 6 and UPX and Pearson Airport and hotels could feed his convention centre AND Pearson Transit Hub?

 

[rbt]

Curious. Could Doug Ford thinking about a new site for his "needed" convention centre become part of the Pearson Transit Hub. Having Line 5 and Line 6 and UPX and Pearson Airport and hotels could feed his convention centre AND Pearson Transit Hub?

Paris Nord Villepinte is a good example of a convention centre, larger than what Ford is considering, near the airport and 30m by RER B to downtown

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

Toronto Pearson airport kicks off $3B overhaul in effort to expand capacity​

From https://toronto.citynews.ca/2026/05/11/toronto-pearson-airport-infrastructure-expansion/

Toronto’s Pearson airport is launching a multibillion-dollar upgrade that aims to boost passenger numbers by more than a third to 65 million a year by the early 2030s.

The revitalization plan looks to ramp up traffic and tighten on-time performance with improvements ranging from repaved runways to “modernized retail” and possible terminal expansions.

The announcement on Monday is part of a broader infrastructure renewal and expansion program at Pearson airport dubbed Pearson LIFT (long-term investments in facilities and terminals).

Officials said the initial $3-billion phase focuses on several areas, including:

• Expanded airfield with more aircraft parking positions
• New “high-speed taxiway” to speed up the time it takes for airplanes to move between runways and gates
• Upgrading approximately 20,000 airfield lights with a new “real-time” and “state-of-the-art” system
• More chargers for electric maintenance vehicles
• Upgrading 30 kilometres of baggage infrastructure at Terminal 1 and Terminal 3, peak capacity will see around 100,000 bags moved a day

Toronto Pearson International Airport CEO Deborah Flint framed the renovations as a gateway to greater global trade and passenger satisfaction.

“We know that in today’s time, Pearson must be ambitious, we must be dynamic and we must be transformative,” she told attendees at a news conference Monday morning.

Pearson airport is Canada’s largest with more than 47 million travellers annually, and there are hopes to grow that figure by 35 per cent within about seven years. Flint said the initial round of investments should add capacity for three million more passengers.

She noted the role the airport plays in moving freight, highlighting that 45 per cent of cargo destined across Canada moves through Toronto Pearson.

The renewal effort comes as the government considers privatizing Canada’s federally owned airports, partly due to the massive cost of maintaining the facilities.

But what about the Pearson Transit Hub? What about extensions for Line 5 and Line 6 to the Pearson Transit Hub?

 

[hw621]

Toronto Pearson airport kicks off $3B overhaul in effort to expand capacity​

From https://toronto.citynews.ca/2026/05/11/toronto-pearson-airport-infrastructure-expansion/





But what about the Pearson Transit Hub? What about extensions for Line 5 and Line 6 to the Pearson Transit Hub?

Those Uber drivers don't want these things...

 

[rbt]

But what about the Pearson Transit Hub? What about extensions for Line 5 and Line 6 to the Pearson Transit Hub?

It was a real-estate play like Schiphol, using rent from office tenants to reduce fees airlines pay, not a transportation concept. The idea is dead until a 3rd party is willing to foot the bill; for a while it seemed like Doug might do it with Eglinton West.

 

[Northern Light]

It was a real-estate play like Schiphol, using rent from office tenants to reduce fees airlines pay, not a transportation concept. The idea is dead until a 3rd party is willing to foot the bill; for a while it seemed like Doug might do it with Eglinton West.

The transit plans for the airport are not dead.

They were and are delayed...........but not indefinitely.

 

[Thaboss]

The transit plans for the airport are not dead.

They were and are delayed...........but not indefinitely.

Shouldn't suprise anyone.

With that federal and provincial annoucment regarding the midtown line + pearson hub + airport partial privatization plan + sovereignty fund. I have a more than sneaky suspicion that these things are connected.

Too much smoke there..

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

Shouldn't suprise anyone.

With that federal and provincial annoucment regarding the midtown line + pearson hub + airport partial privatization plan + sovereignty fund. I have a more than sneaky suspicion that these things are connected.

Too much smoke there..

In other words... "black smoke" from the boardroom chapel.

 

[hw621]

Shouldn't suprise anyone.

With that federal and provincial annoucment regarding the midtown line + pearson hub + airport partial privatization plan + sovereignty fund. I have a more than sneaky suspicion that these things are connected.

Too much smoke there..

What midtown line and Pearson hub announcement? What did I miss?

 

[nfitz]

The transit plans for the airport are not dead.

They were and are delayed...........but not indefinitely.

With global warming the next ice age isn't dead either. Just delayed.

 

[McGillicuddy]

I've always considered it odd how many people were musing about ALTO running through Summerhill and terminating at Pearson, especially in light of ALTO themselves saying they were looking at downtown locations for Toronto.

If that's actually happening, I don't know how I'll go on living.

 

[reinventingthewheel]

I've always considered it odd how many people were musing about ALTO running through Summerhill and terminating at Pearson, especially in light of ALTO themselves saying they were looking at downtown locations for Toronto.

If that's actually happening, I don't know how I'll go on living.

If the midtown corridor is bought out the Milton line should be diverted there and free up capacity in the south portion of the Kitchener line for an Alto west extension.

 

[drum118]

If the midtown corridor is bought out the Milton line should be diverted there and free up capacity in the south portion of the Kitchener line for an Alto west extension.

And how is it going to help riders getting to work downtown?? How much extra travel time will riders have to deal with the extra transfer??

Most of all, how is the subway going to handle those extra 10's of 1,000's of riders on top of the over capacity systems with 10's of 1,000's of more ridership from development along the line??? Then there is the York Region ridership.

There is enough capacity to allow for 4-5 tracks in the corridor today for everyone.

 

[Thaboss]

In other words... "black smoke" from the boardroom chapel.

What midtown line and Pearson hub announcement? What did I miss?

With global warming the next ice age isn't dead either. Just delayed.

I've always considered it odd how many people were musing about ALTO running through Summerhill and terminating at Pearson, especially in light of ALTO themselves saying they were looking at downtown locations for Toronto.

If that's actually happening, I don't know how I'll go on living.

If the midtown corridor is bought out the Milton line should be diverted there and free up capacity in the south portion of the Kitchener line for an Alto west extension.

Since clearly some of you missed the announcement.

Ontario Newsroom

news.ontario.ca

GO 2.0: Canada and Ontario will explore options that will allow increased GO Transit passenger service along freight-owned corridors across the Greater Golden Horseshoe region, including improved service along existing GO lines and the potential creation of new GO lines in the Greater Golden Horseshoe.

Options under consideration may include constructing new bypass tracks in the Milton corridor and new railway service through Toronto. These options will be considered alongside plans to advance the Alto High-Speed Rail line, including connectivity to Pearson Airport

The above was announced at a Ford and Carney event.
Obviously we're looking at time horizons of 10+ years here but the interest is clearly there from the province AND the feds to get something done here.

And for what its worth. ALTO seems to be this PMs pet project and can could you blame him ?

He lived in japan and EU for several years so He's clearly seen the light.



And just my opinion here, but I think privatization of pearson is really about the transit hub, asset recycling (so not true privitazation), to maintain controll of our airports while bringing on some massive sovereignty fund to support the efforts to develop the lands (think about that massive investor confrence happening in September led by the PM). Think about the value capture potential of having a massive transit hub next to the airport. A week or two before the "privatization" announcement, I heard an industry insider muse about how these massive funds always wondered if Canada's airports where in play..with the answer always seemingly no...

So yea I see the smoke.