ash_iwn95 said:
As one of the crane-sceptics, I would genuinely absolutely love if something was hung off off the top of it, that seems like a unique idea that more broadly conveys the history of this region. The structure while absurdly big in my opinion, feels incomplete
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But what can you safely hang from there?
 
Something by James Plensa?! Or Director X?!
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Tyrang said:
Again? Toronto has gone through enough back and forth about flipping Ferris Wheel.... People hates it (and I don't know why actually).
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I believe other people hate it partially because Ford wanted one, but I dislike the idea because it's been done to death & frankly, we aren't going to make one more impressively large than the London Eye, nor as unique as the one sticking out of a building (I think in Osaka?) so what's the point? Montréal & Niagara Falls have Ferris wheels too, so it wouldn't even be unique nearby. A crane (whether or not we hang something from it) is at least a little unique, but it would be really nice if we had a totally new idea never done elsewhere. Hanging a bronzed streetcar up is maybe crazy, but I'd rather encourage these types of novel ideas than been-there-done-that boring ones.
 
Natika33 said:
I believe other people hate it partially because Ford wanted one, but I dislike the idea because it's been done to death & frankly, we aren't going to make one more impressively large than the London Eye, nor as unique as the one sticking out of a building (I think in Osaka?) so what's the point? Montréal & Niagara Falls have Ferris wheels too, so it wouldn't even be unique nearby. A crane (whether or not we hang something from it) is at least a little unique, but it would be really nice if we had a totally new idea never done elsewhere. Hanging a bronzed streetcar up is maybe crazy, but I'd rather encourage these types of novel ideas than been-there-done-that boring ones.
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Just to provide a counter-thought ... do we always need something to be unique? Can it not just be 'nice to have'? For example, everyone has nice large parks ... but that doesn't mean you can't also have one if people like it and use it. Perhaps a giant ferris wheel can merely serve the purpose of 'nice to have'. I'm not personally into ferris wheels, but I also have no idea why there was such push back on something that seemed like a fairly benign idea. That said, now we have an ugly and out of place crane (just personal opinion) that with no discernible purpose or use.
 
Lyphe said:
Just to provide a counter-thought ... do we always need something to be unique? Can it not just be 'nice to have'? For example, everyone has nice large parks ... but that doesn't mean you can't also have one if people like it and use it. Perhaps a giant ferris wheel can merely serve the purpose of 'nice to have'. I'm not personally into ferris wheels, but I also have no idea why there was such push back on something that seemed like a fairly benign idea. That said, now we have an ugly and out of place crane (just personal opinion) that with no discernible purpose or use.
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Not only was a Ferris Wheel on the table, but a mall and a monorail. IIRC it was whatever got whispered in his ear after an Australian company had just lobbied him on it. The push back was because there was years of work put into developing a Lower Don Lands plan that had agreement from all three levels of government and this new idea threatened to derail it.
 
Lyphe said:
Just to provide a counter-thought ... do we always need something to be unique? Can it not just be 'nice to have'? For example, everyone has nice large parks ... but that doesn't mean you can't also have one if people like it and use it. Perhaps a giant ferris wheel can merely serve the purpose of 'nice to have'. I'm not personally into ferris wheels, but I also have no idea why there was such push back on something that seemed like a fairly benign idea. That said, now we have an ugly and out of place crane (just personal opinion) that with no discernible purpose or use.
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Never said we "always" need something to be unique. Perhaps the good people of Toronto are also reluctant to have a permanent one erected because they feel their Ferris wheel needs are met during the CNE every year?
 
Natika33 said:
Never said we "always" need something to be unique. Perhaps the good people of Toronto are also reluctant to have a permanent one erected because they feel their Ferris wheel needs are met during the CNE every year?
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Actually I went back and tried to find some data... Apparently more than half of the survey respondents want to see a Ferris Wheel when it was being discussed. People just hate the mall idea on Ontario Place.

So we are not getting either cuz ppl hates Ford's overall ideas, or Ford kinda just moved on from the idea.

I guess we might still get one if the packaging of the idea is right. I dont see why not, people always look for a place to watch toronto Skyline.
 
I'd suggest a huge community way-finding sign (in the spirit of JUNCTION, KENSINGTON etc.)... gently spinning and hung from the crane ... designed by local indigenous artists.

It could be carved and lit, or perhaps even modern materials such as sculpting with LEDs to depict the indigenous image. Would also be a nice fit with the art trail plans.

The name of the new island is Ookwemin Minising (place of the black cherry trees) ... what better way to teach locals and visitors the new name ;).


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^I don't know if we need all those bells and whistles with that...the sign here alone if you are serious about this would do nicely as the brand here. If you don't mind ditching the cheesy font, that is.
 
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