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Chris R.
Senior Member
This is squarely the fault of the condo developers using the cheapest glass and materials. I've been to other countries with construction outside, and I've been in these kinds of condos, and they latter are trash that allow all manner of noise from outside to come in.
kotsy
Senior Member
On the plus side, she's got a great view of that new mural.
UtakataNoAnnex
Superstar
There's always segments of a population out there who will wake up at a sound of a dropping pin. And no matter how much a given construction project does to dampen/prevent the noise of their building it will never be enough...
...either way, diggers will continue to dig. Hammers will continue to hammer. And the sleepless will always continue to remain sleepless. >.<
...either way, diggers will continue to dig. Hammers will continue to hammer. And the sleepless will always continue to remain sleepless. >.<
kotsy
Senior Member
Another weekend, another group of concourse supports going up. But, they were paused because of the wind when I walked through.
UtakataNoAnnex
Superstar
...yeah, it was rather blowy today.
kotsy
Senior Member
Some pics after the concourse support installation over the weekend. I'm loving the criss-crossing lines that form from the diagonal supports.
DtTO
Active Member
Most cities, even our neighbour Montreal, use mostly curtain wall. City council needs to enforce higher standards when it comes to cladding. I'm not an expert; get a bunch of experts, come up with some noise, thermal, etc. values that can't be matched by typical window wall, and use those. Worst case scenario, we get some higher quality window wall/hybrid cladding.
Milaisacat
Active Member
I have compassion for someone essentially living in the construction site. There's truly not much that can be done to mitigate noise with that kind of proximity. If they have the misfortune to be living beside a laydown area, they're simply going to hear equipment and material being, well, laid down. Similarly, the audible back-up sounds of vehicles is inevitable. There's no scenario were construction equipment and vehicles can safely operate without audible backup warning sounds, and the current rhythmic 'coughing' form of which was introduced to replace the older and far more disruptive beep-beep-beep style.
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Monarch Butterfly
Superstar
I wear ear-plugs when I sleep at night. Better than hearing my neighbour warm up his truck for 15 minutes before the sun rises. Don't hear the construction happening a block from my home with the ear-plugs. What thunderstorm?
TossYourJacket
Senior Member
I feel like if City Council tried to ask developers to spend more money on buildings we'd immediately see the province strike that bylaw down.
AnnetteMeetsJane
Active Member
Require developers to report a metric for noise and heat transmission and let the consumer choose whether they want to buy/rent in a well clad building or not.
Milaisacat
Active Member
I am not an expert about noise studies (far from it), but I do know that they are already required for nearly all new development.
The trouble is that the typical solution when external noise will be sufficient to disrupt residents is to have a requirement for the building to use an HVAC system in order to permit residents to keep their windows closed. No credible building is going to get built without an HVAC system, so that isn't exactly a novel solution to external noise. I would expect that there are Code requirements for window and wall assembly noise attenuation, but personally I think these should be much, much higher.
Ultimately, I think airport zoning regulations, which establish noise exposure contours, point the way towards how noise should be handled writ large. Decibel mapping should be a zoning overlay and buildings proposed within various Db contours would be required to demonstrate how they attenuate this noise down to the permissible noise exposure bands.
A deeply unfair aspect of protecting established neighbourhoods and effectively directing most new development onto avenues and adjacent to major noise-producing infrastructure is that it means a tremendous swathe of the population must endure a baseline level of noise that would be deemed unacceptable and unliveable in the established neighbourhoods.
The trouble is that the typical solution when external noise will be sufficient to disrupt residents is to have a requirement for the building to use an HVAC system in order to permit residents to keep their windows closed. No credible building is going to get built without an HVAC system, so that isn't exactly a novel solution to external noise. I would expect that there are Code requirements for window and wall assembly noise attenuation, but personally I think these should be much, much higher.
Ultimately, I think airport zoning regulations, which establish noise exposure contours, point the way towards how noise should be handled writ large. Decibel mapping should be a zoning overlay and buildings proposed within various Db contours would be required to demonstrate how they attenuate this noise down to the permissible noise exposure bands.
A deeply unfair aspect of protecting established neighbourhoods and effectively directing most new development onto avenues and adjacent to major noise-producing infrastructure is that it means a tremendous swathe of the population must endure a baseline level of noise that would be deemed unacceptable and unliveable in the established neighbourhoods.
ProjectEnd
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From a friend
livesquid
New Member
So this gets extended one more span to the north (ontario line tracks) and then the whole thing is extended twice, once on each side?