Sneaking my own pic of the Distillery Kaaba
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kotsy said:
I think the obvious follow up question would be "will they be constructing temporary mockups for any other stations?"
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They added a slide for this in the May 28th CLC presentation deck; while it doesn't preclude other temporary mockups, the wording seems to suggest that this mockup is serving as an exemplar for the stations across the line.

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Has this been done to this extent anywhere in the city, country or world? I mean, when my condo was doing a redecoration they put carpet and wallpaper samples up on an easel in the lobby. They didn’t pour a buildings worth of concrete and rebar. This is wild. Is this a student project? Did we not retain anyone who built the other extensions and stations?
 
Jolene said:
I like the idea in theory to test things out, but I'm very curious what is the cost of doing this? And could they not rent out and renovate an old warehouse or something to test materials?
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Mock-ups are standard practice when constructing a building, and no in this case you cannot just retrofit an existing building. That sort of practice may apply to other situations, but here it's not possible. These stations have a lot of specific requirements, that need to be checked, reviewed and ultimately approved by a substantial number of disciplines (architects, structural, MEP, accessibility, acoustics, lighting, etc.). As this is going to be a multi-billion dollar endeavor, the cost of building a mock-up or two, three etc., is not only warranted, it should be mandatory.
 
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I guess to that the cost being spent on this entire station (and this entire project even) would likely make the costing of a mock-up here nearly negligible. That is, if they didn't build this to save public dollars...it wouldn't be very much. Not to mention, preventative measures including this will likely save more money (with less potential headaches) in the long run. And for what that's worth.
 
p5connex said:
Mock-ups are standard practice when constructing a building, and no in this case you cannot just retrofit an existing building. That sort of practice may apply to other situations, but here it's not possible. These stations have a lot of specific requirements, that need to be checked, reviewed and ultimately approved by a substantial number of disciplines (architects, structural, MEP, accessibility, acoustics, lighting, etc.). As this is going to be a multi-billion dollar endeavor, the cost of building a mock-up or two, three etc., is not only warranted, it should be mandatory.
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Hmm, I wonder how other transportation systems and places have handled this? Do you have some examples when it comes to new major public transportation projects going this route? I'm not disputing your claim, I'm just curious.
 
Jolene said:
Hmm, I wonder how other transportation systems and places have handled this? Do you have some examples when it comes to new major public transportation projects going this route? I'm not disputing your claim, I'm just curious.
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Metro's 1968 Mockup: The Station Built to Test the Design

In 1968, WMATA spent $69,000 to build a full-scale, 17-foot mockup of a Metro station to test lighting, materials, and spacing before construction began.
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UtakataNoAnnex said:
I guess to that the cost being spent on this entire station (and this entire project even) would likely make the costing of a mock-up here nearly negligible. That is, if they didn't build this to save public dollars...it wouldn't be very much. Not to mention, preventative measures including this will likely save more money (with less potential headaches) in the long run. And for what that's worth.
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^^Pretty much. The cost is essentially negligible, relative to the overall project. Furthermore, it may expose issues not captured during the planning/design phases, that can be rectified, rethought, excluded or enhanced etc. Of course, this is the concept - execution may ultimately be different.
Jolene said:
Hmm, I wonder how other transportation systems and places have handled this? Do you have some examples when it comes to new major public transportation projects going this route? I'm not disputing your claim, I'm just curious.
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I don't have anything on-hand for metro systems, but this is a typical part of the building process. ^^Thanks Tuscani01 for providing that link.

Regarding architectural mock-ups, you can see them posted here on UT at different times - these PMU (Performance Mock-Up) were completed for The One - 1 Bloor St. W (Foster & Partners) - Facade Engineers/ BM Windows. Typically they are built in a controlled laboratory or on-site to rigorously test the design, materials, and structural integrity before mass production and final installation.

One Bloor West – Toronto

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The One - 1 Bloor W - Facade Mock-up 01

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The One - 1 Bloor W - Facade Mock-up 02

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Apple have a building where they have a full Apple store built out where they test out new design standards (materials, furniture etc.)
It's a pretty cool space to walk around in.
 
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