kotsy said:
If there's no TBMing south of Front, how are they getting to the portal? Doesn't seem like an area that can be done cut and cover.
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SEM mining of two tunnels from just south of Front st to just east of Cherry st, where the remaining stretch to the portal is cut and cover.

They’re also using SEM to dig underneath Front st, too many utilities in the way just below street level.
 
Excited, but looking around- can’t help but think this won’t be finished in my lifetime.

Sheppard took 9yrs for 5.5km of straight tunnel.

Ontario Line is 15.6, with above and below ground, tunnelling, twists and turns in the most inefficient and incompetent era.

Like maaaaaybe things speed up in the 19th year of Doug Ford’s reign, after amalgamating the PM’s office with the premiership and Toronto mayoralty - and making the cyclists imprisoned with “bike crime” work “voluntarily” for reduced sentencing. But I don’t know if I’ll be able to afford my No Frill’s vaccines by then.
 
jxmith_ said:
Excited, but looking around- can’t help but think this won’t be finished in my lifetime.

Sheppard took 9yrs for 5.5km of straight tunnel.

Ontario Line is 15.6, with above and below ground, tunnelling, twists and turns in the most inefficient and incompetent era.
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What I gleam from this is you’re nearing your death bed.

There are 4 major tunnelling activities, all which can be done in parallel. The mining mentioned above, then one TBM travelling ~1.5km, another travelling ~3.0km, and another travelling ~3.3km.

Station and portal work is advancing rapidly across the whole line. The slowest out the gate is the north contract works (which was latest to be awarded iirc).

jxmith_ said:
Like maaaaaybe things speed up in the 19th year of Doug Ford’s reign, after amalgamating the PM’s office with the premiership and Toronto mayoralty - and making the cyclists imprisoned with “bike crime” work “voluntarily” for reduced sentencing. But I don’t know if I’ll be able to afford my No Frill’s vaccines by then.
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Give it a rest, mate, this isn’t the place for it.
 
South of Front St update from today:

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jxmyth_ said:
Excited, but looking around- can’t help but think this won’t be finished in my lifetime.

Sheppard took 9yrs for 5.5km of straight tunnel.

Ontario Line is 15.6, with above and below ground, tunnelling, twists and turns in the most inefficient and incompetent era.

Like maaaaaybe things speed up in the 19th year of Doug Ford’s reign, after amalgamating the PM’s office with the premiership and Toronto mayoralty - and making the cyclists imprisoned with “bike crime” work “voluntarily” for reduced sentencing. But I don’t know if I’ll be able to afford my No Frill’s vaccines by then.
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So you're not a Ford supporter? What does this have to do with anything in this thread?
 
Isotack said:
So you're not a Ford supporter? What does this have to do with anything in this thread?
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Raising concerns about the length in time this project will be completed, I gather. Although...that should be more directed at the meta thread for this over on Transportation and Infrastructure. /shrug
 
Isotack said:
So you're not a Ford supporter? What does this have to do with anything in this thread?
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This is the entry point for the boring machine in the downtown core, which I imagine means they’ll want it as an operational site longer than other stops (general access, moving material, replacing the machine etc). So the longer this goes, the longer we’ll go before it’s sealed up and developed. Sorry for making a crack about - I presume your personal idol- as is the tradition about civic projects. I’ll be sure to include some zingers about Mel Lastman and Berkley St next time 🙏
 
kotsy said:
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The way the southern part seems to have a pretty clean and isolated dig site makes me wonder how quickly we’ll see developer plans for the rest of the land. Might have to pull up the original plan for 5 towers before the land swap to compare when we do.

In the end, did the city actually *get* anything out of that whole land swap?
 
I’ll preface this post by saying that until plans show otherwise, we can still entertain the possibility of south and north sites becoming a complex connected by Corktown station underground.

These were the teased proposals of 57 and 20 storeys with 6-7 storey podiums, seen as a bluff in order to trigger the land swap. (And it’s funny to see folks on this site in 2011 call these heights outrageous, when they’d likely say “good start” today)

So what I’m thinking, is that they keep something like this on the south side, and then flip it on the north, so we get another tall tower right atop the station on King & Berkley. Public space flanking both sides of Front st.

And while I’m playing fantasy draft, scuttle the library move to Esplanade/Jarvis, and make it part of the underground here, with plenty of raised windows amongst gardens to give the space below natural light. (Like you see in Place Des Arts in Mtl) then work the Parliament foundations into the library as a glassed in educational space (like Pointe-à-Calliéres in Mtl).

If these plans had ANY validity in 2011, maybe they could point towards what we’ll get on both blocks going forward. Dunno, just throwing it out there. I feel like we have plenty of subway station complexes all over the place, so why not here.

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Also, this feels like a million years ago.


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