[81-717]

No one is talking about a Pape Subway or a Queen Subway - at least not in the real world.

Doesn't change the fact that part of L3 has 2 or more stops on Queen, and 2 or more on Pape, which is enough reason to not name them Queen or Pape respectively. Also we do have an Eglinton line, and the fact that Eglinton-Yonge didn't become another Bloor-Yonge & Sheppard-Yonge is appalling. Maybe it's because even ML itself doesn't acknowledge L5 as a subway worthy of such name changes, and is saving the name change for the distant future if/when it's upgraded to subway

 

[A 6264]

Doesn't change the fact that part of L3 has 2 or more stops on Queen, and 2 or more on Pape, which is enough reason to not name them Queen or Pape respectively. Also we do have an Eglinton line, and the fact that Eglinton-Yonge didn't become another Bloor-Yonge & Sheppard-Yonge is appalling. Maybe it's because even ML itself doesn't acknowledge L5 as a subway worthy of such name changes, and is saving the name chsnge for the distant future if/when it's upgraded to subway

I take the opposite view, I think changing existing station names is appalling unless there's a really good reason for it. I don't think any of the name changes thus far were for a good reason, unless you're really bugged that there was a station named after Henry Dundas. I'm not bothered by Bloor/Yonge, because it's been that way as long as I can remember, though I think Yonge/Bloor sounds more intuitive, and I also like the fact that platform signage keeps the names separate. Queen and Pape should not change because everyone knows them by those names. If you want stations to be indentified by their intersections rather than having an actual name, you'll have to change them all. It's like saying, nobody should name their kids John or any other name that's already been taken; because everyone's name has to be unique.

 

[81-717]

I think changing existing station names is appalling unless there's a really good reason for it

And I stand by the fact that all stations in question do have a good reason, which is exactly the same as in the case of B/Y & Sh/Y.

unless you're really bugged that there was a station named after Henry Dundas

Personally, idgaf, and the whole renaming fiasco was an eyeroll moment for me.

and I also like the fact that platform signage keeps the names separate

I wish that was also the case at Sh/Y, Eg/Y, etc.

If you want stations to be indentified by their intersections rather than having an actual name, you'll have to change them all

Not necessarily. Only if there are enough lines to sufficiently fill the grid that there would be too many duplicate names. There are 4 east/west lines with stops at Yonge, hence why they should be called Q/Y, B/Y, Eg/Y & Sh/Y, but as long as the only north/south stops at Finch are on the 2 branches of L1, they can get away with calling them simply Finch & Finch West.

 

[A 6264]

And I stand by the fact that all stations in question do have a good reason, which is exactly the same as in the case of B/Y & Sh/Y.

Personally, idgaf, and the whole renaming fiasco was an eyeroll moment for me.

I wish that was also the case at Sh/Y, Eg/Y, etc.

Not necessarily. Only if there are enough lines to sufficiently fill the grid that there would be too many duplicate names. There are 4 east/west lines with stops at Yonge, hence why they should be called Q/Y, B/Y, Eg/Y & Sh/Y, but as long as the only north/south stops at Finch are on the 2 branches of L1, they can get away with calling them simply Finch & Finch West.

I'm glad you've clarified, but I think your suggestion is inconsistent. It would seem to dictate that Finch should be renamed Finch-Yonge, and Finch West should be renamed Finch-Keele, in which case Keele should be renamed Bloor-Keele. If not, we're right back to some rules for some stations, other rules for others. I dislike hyphenated names, and again, I think you are asking for the station signage to state its grid location, which is different from having a name. I think names should be permenant, and it's okay for a station to be named after a local street or district, which only the locals know about. To be honest, I never thought of major street names like Keele as streets, just names of subway stations, if I didn't live anywhere near the areas where those streets pass through.

 

[81-717]

I'm glad you've clarified, but I think your suggestion is inconsistent. It would seem to dictate that Finch should be renamed Finch-Yonge, and Finch West should be renamed Finch-Keele, in which case Keele should be renamed Bloor-Keele. If not, we're right back to some rules for some stations, other rules for others. I dislike hyphenated names, and again, I think you are asking for the station signage to state its grid location, which is different from having a name. I think names should be permenant, and it's okay for a station to be named after a local street or district, which only the locals know about. To be honest, I never thought of major street names like Keele as streets, just names of subway stations, if I didn't live anywhere near the areas where those streets pass through.

The logic is fairly straightforward: hyphenated names are necessary for interchange stations of lines following opposite grid alignments (north/south vs. east/west) to pinpoint the grid location of the interchange, rather than a whole line (either line that passes through the interchange). Even in a hypothetical scenario where all lines run parallel & never intersect, like if L2, L5 & L4 were the only lines in existence, you could only have a maximum of 3 distinct names unique to each line (i.e. Yonge South, Yonge, Yonge North respectively) before you'd have to resort to using the full grid name for each station. Keele vs. Finch West isn't as straightforward because L1 doesn't run primarily east/west (it's the L6 platform that should be called Keele North), but doesn't run exclusively north/south there either, but FW works fine regardless.

I think names should be permenant

Generally I agree, and having a full hyphenated grid name is about as permanent & futureproof as it can get (short of some renaming circus like Dundas).

To be honest, I never thought of major street names like Keele as streets, just names of subway stations, if I didn't live anywhere near the areas where those streets pass through.

I can relate, I tend to associate the entire length of streets like Sheppard or Finch with L1, even though places like Sheppard/McCowan are nowhere near it.

 

[mburrrrr]

Some pictures from Millwood bridge and area yesterday afternoon.

 

[urbancog]

Some pictures from Millwood bridge and area yesterday afternoon.
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You captured a tremie being used to place concrete below water for one of the piles. Shows just how deep they've had to pile, in the bottom of the Don Valley, to find stable ground.

 

[ShonTron]

perhaps even worse, imagine if we named a station all the way in the south of scarborough, nowhere near scarborough centre, "scarborough"

That’s been the name of it for a very long time, though it used to be known as Scarboro Junction, somewhere the “Junction” bit was dropped and the “ugh” added. Along with Agincourt (CN and CP) and Port Union (which was on the old Pickering/Scarborough border), it was one of very few stations serving the township.

So it’s not the same as “East York Station” which I agree isn’t a good name for Cosburn.

 

[nfitz]

That’s been the name of it for a very long time, though it used to be known as Scarboro Junction, somewhere the “Junction” bit was dropped and the “ugh” added. Along with Agincourt (CN and CP) and Port Union (which was on the old Pickering/Scarborough border), it was one of very few stations serving the township.

Indeed, here's a map from the 1880s showing Scarboro Junction. Interestingly, the actual village of Scarboro is near the intersection of Markham Road and Eglinton Avenue. Interestingly the station that was actually in the village of Scarboro was called "Markham Road Crossing in the 1890s timetable.

 

[81-717]

perhaps even worse, imagine if we named a station all the way in the south of scarborough, nowhere near scarborough centre, "scarborough"

Are you referring to Scarborough GO? I also always felt that wasn't the best name for that specific station (might as well've called it St. Clair, since the preceding & following stations are called Danforth & Eglinton), out of like 7 stations in Scarborough. Kennedy or Agincourt stations would've probably been better candidates to be named "Scarborough", since one is close to STC and the other is also a major transit hub commonly associated with Scarborough.

 

[M II A II R II K]

And they probably should have the same names for GO and TTC stations that are the same station and not have duplicate names at totally different locations, and not create new ones like Woodbine GO.

 

[TorontoPotential]

While we’re at here is another 5 pages on comments to revisit Leslieville naming since the station is actually in Riverside and NOT Leslieville lol

 

[Vortex112]

While we’re at here is another 5 pages on comments to revisit Leslieville naming since the station is actually in Riverside and NOT Leslieville lol

It’s literally on the border between Riverside and Leslieville. And with Leslieville being the more recognizable neighborhood why would it not be named that.

 

[CapitalSeven]

I lived half a block from the station location 40 years ago, in what everyone called South Riverdale then. Is Riverside an historic name?

 

[APTA-2048]

Line 5 should have convinced Metrolinx that naming stations after neighbourhoods isn’t ideal. With some stations barely in their namesake or two stations in one neighbourhood.