The trestle bridge for the Lower Don crossing is one segment away from crossing the Don River.

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Run from them, hide from them.... the Nimby $2 million dollar Riverside homeowner will always return...

Is it NIMBYism? There's a lot of reasons to oppose the surface alignment. Like the fact that it kneecaps any future ability to expand the Lakeshore East corridor.

Metrolinx keeps getting it completely wrong. Where a surface alignment should be chosen, the line is buried, where burial is desired, a surface alignment is chosen, where a light metro is desirable, a full scale subway is going there, where a full scale subway is desirable, we get a light metro. It's like playing opposites but in infrastructure design. Give the task to a bunch of defiant, anti-establishment teenagers and tell them that you want something you actually don't want,, and you'll get better results than with "professionals" at the helm.

Am I allowed to say that as someone who will probably never be affluent enough to own a house?
 
Is it NIMBYism? There's a lot of reasons to oppose the surface alignment. Like the fact that it kneecaps any future ability to expand the Lakeshore East corridor.
First time hearing anyone opposing the GO/OL alignment and wanting the OL to be underground through there, tbh. Downtown I get why anything not underground is a non-starter, but given how much easier & quicker it would be to build non-underground, me thinks we'd build entire subway lines like that if only we could (we can't). As for GO expansion, maybe I'm out of the loop but I know of no plans to add more tracks along Lakeshore East. Ironically both line 3s have prevented GO expansion, but now that one of them is shut down the Stoufville line is in the clear for that.

It's like playing opposites but in infrastructure design.
The preservation industry loves playing opposites too...
 
Is it NIMBYism? There's a lot of reasons to oppose the surface alignment. Like the fact that it kneecaps any future ability to expand the Lakeshore East corridor.

Metrolinx keeps getting it completely wrong. Where a surface alignment should be chosen, the line is buried, where burial is desired, a surface alignment is chosen, where a light metro is desirable, a full scale subway is going there, where a full scale subway is desirable, we get a light metro. It's like playing opposites but in infrastructure design. Give the task to a bunch of defiant, anti-establishment teenagers and tell them that you want something you actually don't want,, and you'll get better results than with "professionals" at the helm.

Am I allowed to say that as someone who will probably never be affluent enough to own a house?
To be fair, since GO Expansion is and was kneecapped already, saving billions by using the rail ROW in the shorter term is probably not a bad idea. As far as I know a third track for LSE was never planned during the first two phases of GO Expansion. If a third track for LSE is needed later they can add it later. Saving money sooner is better than saving money later for such a cash-strapped government.
 
Is it NIMBYism? There's a lot of reasons to oppose the surface alignment. Like the fact that it kneecaps any future ability to expand the Lakeshore East corridor.
Yes, I'm sure the protest campaign against the OL a few years back was based on nuanced arguments for the future of regional and intercity railroad capacity.

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Not the invented "health impacts" or literal complaints about too many trains running through the EXISTING RAIL CORRIDOR.

Just because you may have nominally more sophisticated arguments against something, does not mean the the actual movement against it shared those concerns. Turns out, they are actually opposed to your desire for greater regional/intercity rail service, because trains along a train track are ooo so evil.

If you can find anything but the most passing references to GO/VIA capacity on this whole page I'll eat my hat.
 
There's a lot of reasons to oppose the surface alignment. Like the fact that it kneecaps any future ability to expand the Lakeshore East corridor.

Metrolinx keeps getting it completely wrong.
You keep blaming Metrolinx but we all know that consultant Michael Schabas recommended this to the Premier's office, and Metrolinx was instructed to implement.
 
Yes, I'm sure the protest campaign against the OL a few years back was based on nuanced arguments for the future of regional and intercity railroad capacity.



Not the invented "health impacts" or literal complaints about too many trains running through the EXISTING RAIL CORRIDOR.

Just because you may have nominally more sophisticated arguments against something, does not mean the the actual movement against it shared those concerns. Turns out, they are actually opposed to your desire for greater regional/intercity rail service, because trains along a train track are ooo so evil.

If you can find anything but the most passing references to GO/VIA capacity on this whole page I'll eat my hat.
I wasn't aware every person with an opinion is answerable for every other person holding said opinion. What a convenient way to dismiss all your ideological opponents.

Unless you can prove that a person commenting is a home owning NIMBY, it is defamation, nothing more.
 
Wait, we all know that? That's, like, common knowledge???

I've never heard of Michael Schabas. I don't know any Schabas.

Who is 'we all'?

The only Schabas I know is Justice Paul Schabas, who forbade Ford from tearing up bike lanes :)

But this is the Michael Schabas:

 

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