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gweed123 said:
That should definitely help get people up to and down from the platform level much more quickly. Are they widening the platforms as well? Some of those platforms are very narrow.
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No, they need the track capacity so GO will continue to have people wait in the concourse level and call passengers up when there is a place for them to go. Maybe at some point beyond electrification and train control enhancements they could contemplate the removal of a track to make a wider platform or digging in a new underground platform, but nothing like that is in the cards for the foreseeable future.
 
nfitz said:
Hmm ... and says construction has started. Anyone driven past recently ... any signs of mobilization?
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It also says this:
The 25km line will run underground from Jane/Black Creek Drive to Kennedy Station, then on a structure completely separated from traffic to the Scarborough City Centre.
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I know that means separated ROW, but maybe it leaves the door open for parts to be elevated? It would make more sense west of Black Creek than Scarborough, though.
 
Marko said:
It also says this:

I know that means separated ROW, but maybe it leaves the door open for parts to be elevated? It would make more sense west of Black Creek than Scarborough, though.
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It will run on the old Scarborough RT track, which is elevated.
 
That website looks better than the old one you could get to from the TTC Projects page, but there's virtually no new content in it. There's a page promisingly titled "History," but once there you find that the history of this line started last 31 March when Dalton and Frod made nice. The whole saga of Transit City merits no mention, let alone the fiasco in the 90s. If you're going consign 94% of the history to oblivion, fine, call the page something else, like "Blurb that we want you to read in the hope that you're too stupid to use Google to find out what really happened." Just don't call it history. That's like calling a summary of Rob Frod's last year a history of Toronto's mayoral achievements.
 
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nfitz said:
Hmm ... and says construction has started. Anyone driven past recently ... any signs of mobilization?
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They have painted orange traffic lanes, put up barriers, and cut down trees next to the old City of York City Hall, now York Civic Centre at 2700 Eglinton Avenue West.
 
Ravager said:
Talk about being late to the show!

What happened to this line? I though it went to the Airport!?!
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About 18 months ago McGuinty broke his funding promise, and pushed the Airport bit (among other projects) to an unfunded Phase 2, that would be built sometime after 2020. This is what lead to the "Save Transit City" campaign - http://stevemunro.ca/?p=3642
 
nfitz said:
About 18 months ago McGuinty broke his funding promise, and pushed the Airport bit (among other projects) to an unfunded Phase 2, that would be built sometime after 2020. This is what lead to the "Save Transit City" campaign - http://stevemunro.ca/?p=3642
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This delay had me thinking the other day: what about a basic BRT road through the Richview corridor as a 'temporary' transit route to connect the Mississauga BRT to the Eglinton LRT? I'm talking just a couple layers of granular and a couple layers of asphalt, at-grade intersections, and far side bus stops. Literally as bare bones as you can get.

It wouldn't necessarily be pretty, but it would be by far the cheapest way to get a rapid transit link between the two. Phase 1 of the LRT extension could bring it to Royal York (shifting the terminus point further west), with Phase 2 going to Renforth.

This could probably be arranged to be completed at the same time as the LRT, so that it would open as one semi-continuous (with just a transfer at Jane/Black Creek) corridor.
 
That's a good idea gweed. If the lines can carry on west towards Square One and beyond, then other types of buses could use the ROW as well. That's the beauty of BRT is that the ROW doesn't have to be for a dedicated line, but can act as a bus expressway for any number of lines.

It could be there would be some expropriation issues they don't want to deal with right away, but that stretch of Eglinton has more than enough space to add dedicated ROW to whatever form of transit is chosen. If it's BRT in the short term, then it might prove a good test to see how BRT compares with LRT in terms of operational efficiency as well.
 
Marko said:
That's a good idea gweed. If the lines can carry on west towards Square One and beyond, then other types of buses could use the ROW as well. That's the beauty of BRT is that the ROW doesn't have to be for a dedicated line, but can act as a bus expressway for any number of lines.

It could be there would be some expropriation issues they don't want to deal with right away, but that stretch of Eglinton has more than enough space to add dedicated ROW to whatever form of transit is chosen. If it's BRT in the short term, then it might prove a good test to see how BRT compares with LRT in terms of operational efficiency as well.
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Thanks. And yes, the idea is that it would be used by both MT and TTC buses. Half the buses from the Mississauga Transitway would go to Kipling Stn, half would go to Jane/Black Creek station. As for the expropriation issues, I believe that corridor is publicly owned, so expropriation would not be an issue.

And yes, it would definitely be a 'pilot project' of sorts for dedicated ROW BRT in Toronto. It would be relatively cheap to construct (ballpark around $15M/km, so around $100 million for the whole corridor), and the projected ridership for that segment is well within what BRT can handle.

Looking at the aerial, it would run in a dedicated ROW from Martin Grove to Royal York, and then in curbside lanes from Royal York to Jane/Black Creek Station. It may even be able to get away with queue jump lanes from Royal York to Jane, because it's pretty much an expressway between those two points anyway, with only a couple traffic lights.
 
JUst finish the LRT at grade with Half the stops from Jane till the Airport. I was hoping Liberals were going to put this in their funding plan.
 
sixrings said:
JUst finish the LRT at grade with Half the stops from Jane till the Airport. I was hoping Liberals were going to put this in their funding plan.
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Why would you spend 3x as much to put in an LRT at-grade, when a BRT would be just as efficient?

And half the stops? You realize that then it wouldn't even stop at some of the major line roads right? At least with BRT you can have the Mississauga buses run express along the BRT route and terminate at Jane/Black Creek.

I'd rather but in an inexpensive, bare bones BRT now, and then when the funding and the demand is there, put in a trenched or at-grade with underpasses LRT.
 
stops at major intersections, scarlet, royal york, isslington, kipling, martin grove.... THE SAUGA BRT can connect to the terminus of the LRT.... you ask why I want LRT. because NO transfers... similar to why ppl didnt want to transfer from bus to subway at sheppard don mills or lrt to subway.
 
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