[Steve X]

Alternately we can modify a Crosstown Freedom LRV to run on the 509, 510, and 512. That way officials can say: 'see, those lines have been LRT since the 80s, 90s, and 00s and people forgot or didn't notice'. Cuz I think they're very much LRT, and were originally advertised as such. It could serve as a reminder.

Adding to that, I don't think people without awareness would notice a big difference if you show them a PHOTO of a stop on St Clair and on the Crosstown. They won't see transit priority or stop spacing.

 

[44 North]

Those streetcar lines have way too many stops and little signal priority to make them comparable to LRT service.

509/510 have problems like being grossly undersized with the single LRV, and the issue inherent with running a segregated ROW in a truly urban environment. Lots of traffic lights, lots of stops, slower avg speeds. But that's inherent to its environment. Put an SELRT or FWLRT in the same location you'd get the same result.

On the whole though it's got grade-separations going into the subway (on each the 509, 510, and 512), and high frequencies. Those are big bonuses. Not on the scale of grandness as Crosstown, but I still consider them and future Waterfront LRT to be LRTs.

 

[drum118]

The EMSF is ready to accept the new fleet and test them in the yard once the power is turn on The OS is in place.

Work has started on pouring the deck on the elevated section on the east side of Black Creek.

 

[crs1026]

^Any idea whether the supply side if the electricity (switchgear, etc) is in place? What about the backup power plant?


- Paul

 

[barit]

Are there still 2 tunnel boring machines sitting in the ground near Yonge? The 2 east driving ones?

 

[EastYorkTTCFan]

Are there still 2 tunnel boring machines sitting in the ground near Yonge? The 2 east driving ones?

Three actually they have only removed one of them.

 

[robmausser]

509/510 have problems like being grossly undersized with the single LRV, and the issue inherent with running a segregated ROW in a truly urban environment. Lots of traffic lights, lots of stops, slower avg speeds. But that's inherent to its environment. Put an SELRT or FWLRT in the same location you'd get the same result.

On the whole though it's got grade-separations going into the subway (on each the 509, 510, and 512), and high frequencies. Those are big bonuses. Not on the scale of grandness as Crosstown, but I still consider them and future Waterfront LRT to be LRTs.

The biggest issue of 509 and 510 is the fact that the city disabled the streetcar signal priority on all the traffic lights.

 

[hw621]

The biggest issue of 509 and 510 is the fact that the city disabled the streetcar signal priority on all the traffic lights.

Why？

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

Why？

Because transit has such a low priority, they can't say "NO!".

 

[hw621]

Because transit has such a low priority, they can't say "NO!".

 

[Streety McCarface]

All they have to do is prioritize transit some of the time, then eventually prioritize it over a period of time even more. This way, the car-driving snowflakes don't notice that traffic isn't that much worse with better streetcar service.

 

[Steve X]

They feel the cars are too important and drivers will be confused if they had a transit priority phase.

 

[Amare]

We're talking about Toronto here, where the status quo reigns supreme and the majority of people couldnt care less about this kind of stuff. Unfortunately, transit riders suffer as a direct result.

 

[Allandale25]

Detailed presentation here on the agenda for the Metrolinx Oct 22nd Board meeting. The presentation details the work that will happen at Eglinton Station. I might have this wrong but it looks like they need to jack up the subway tunnel a few millimeters?

 

[AlvinofDiaspar]

Detailed presentation here on the agenda for the Metrolinx Oct 22nd Board meeting. The presentation details the work that will happen at Eglinton Station. I might have this wrong but it looks like they need to jack up the subway tunnel a few millimeters?

Doesn't look like they are jacking it up by a few millimeters - but doing it to ensure the tunnel doesn't settle beyond tolerance as they excavate and build underneath.

AoD