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Don’t forget the mayhem that Karen Stinz (a Councillor, and potential mayoral wannabe) and the Glen DeB factions have wreaked on Council’s transit decisions. Frankly, the Matlow faction has driven some diversions of its own.
Toronto has certainly been poorly served by its Mayors on the transit file ( I still rank Lastman as the most egregious of all, with his self centered wasting of the little money the City was able to earmark for transit on a self serving Sheppard Line that went nowhere) ..... mayors may have been in the center of the ring, but Council has contributed its share of lions and elephants and a few dozen trapese artists to this ongoing circus.

- Paul
 
MisterF said:
For anyone who wants a stronger mayor system I have an irrefutable rebuttal in only two words: Rob Ford.
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Let's not forget the PC government at the time forced the RT project on the TTC to start just so that they can have a show-off, so if anyone wanted to find "guilt", there is plenty to be had.

crs1026 said:
Don’t forget the mayhem that Karen Stinz (a Councillor, and potential mayoral wannabe) and the Glen DeB factions have wreaked on Council’s transit decisions. Frankly, the Matlow faction has driven some diversions of its own.
Toronto has certainly been poorly served by its Mayors on the transit file ( I still rank Lastman as the most egregious of all, with his self centered wasting of the little money the City was able to earmark for transit on a self serving Sheppard Line that went nowhere) ..... mayors may have been in the center of the ring, but Council has contributed its share of lions and elephants and a few dozen trapese artists to this ongoing circus.
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Also let's not forget it was Harris that humoured Lastman (and both the Liberals and NDP before him messed around the transit plans for political reasons as well). Toronto mayors don't build anything transit-related without provincial blessing in the form of cash (and often trade their souls in the process - see David Miller and the Spadina extension). And if you want to go further, the current tension is institutionalized (not created - because it has always been there) by amalgamation.

AoD
 
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nfitz said:
And yet travel times are slower on 509 now it's on the side of the road, because of the extra lights and crossings.
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The 509 is a streetcar, not an LRT. It was done incorrectly without the proper ROW separation.

This is what an LRT on the side of the road in a proper ROW looks like

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robmausser said:
The 509 is a streetcar, not an LRT. It was done incorrectly without the proper ROW separation.

This is what an LRT on the side of the road in a proper ROW looks like

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But how are emergency vehicles suppose to use the ROW? /s

Really though, why is that such high of a priority when it comes to at-grade own right of way transit? Also, what's with calling it the "Waterfront LRT" when it is the Waterfront Streetcar?
 
Leo_Chan said:
But how are emergency vehicles suppose to use the ROW? /s

Really though, why is that such high of a priority when it comes to at-grade own right of way transit? Also, what's with calling it the "Waterfront LRT" when it is the Waterfront Streetcar?
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Emergency vehicles using the ROW is a joke since QQW open. I have yet to see one use it since day one, but seen a fair number using the road in place of the ROW of all things with no streetcars on the ROW.

Grass was supposed to be used for the ROW than open tracks as noted in the photo above.

Speed has fallen for various reason, but most of all for pedestrians at various intersections, as well walking on the ROW. You even gets cars blocking the ROW from time to time since they ignore the stop location or the lights.
 
crs1026 said:
Does this have a date to go to Council? All I have found is the fairly non-technical documentation from the consultation.

I am wondering if any more technical analysis was done and if this suppoting documentation is going to see the public eye before the Council debate.

- Paul
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Silly me. I forgot that the Eglinton West extension of Crosstown is actually a Smarttrack project. It's about to go to Council, just went to EC. The supporting documents are here.

- Paul
 
TheTigerMaster said:
There's a lot of new material at the EELRT project website. In particular, they're considering grade separating the Kingston/Morningside/Lawrence intersection, among other improvements: https://eglintoneastlrt.ca/current-work/kingston-road-lawrence-morningside/
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I don't understand this.
  1. Option 2 to 5 shows an LRT extension East on Lawrence - where did that come from or where is it going?
  2. Option 3 says 1 stop on Kingston Road and 2nd stop on Morningside - although it also shows a stop on Lawrence.
  3. Option 4 says its grade-separated at BOTH intersections, but it shows the path along Kingston-Lawrence-Morningside, which has 3 intersections. Which are the 2 intersections, or did they mean to show it along only Kingston and Morningside?
  4. Option 4 says its grade-separated at BOTH intersections, but it shows the path along Kingston-Lawrence-Morningside, which has 3 intersections. Which are the 2 intersections, or did they mean to show it along only Kingston and Morningside? It also shows 3 stops, although the words say only 1 stop under Kingston Road.
  5. Option 5 shows 3 stops, although the words say only 1 stop under Morningside.
  6. Option 4 and 5. It doesn't really show where the portals are located.
 
BurlOak said:
I don't understand this.
  1. Option 2 to 5 shows an LRT extension East on Lawrence - where did that come from or where is it going?
  2. Option 3 says 1 stop on Kingston Road and 2nd stop on Morningside - although it also shows a stop on Lawrence.
  3. Option 4 says its grade-separated at BOTH intersections, but it shows the path along Kingston-Lawrence-Morningside, which has 3 intersections. Which are the 2 intersections, or did they mean to show it along only Kingston and Morningside?
  4. Option 4 says its grade-separated at BOTH intersections, but it shows the path along Kingston-Lawrence-Morningside, which has 3 intersections. Which are the 2 intersections, or did they mean to show it along only Kingston and Morningside? It also shows 3 stops, although the words say only 1 stop under Kingston Road.
  5. Option 5 shows 3 stops, although the words say only 1 stop under Morningside.
  6. Option 4 and 5. It doesn't really show where the portals are located.
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IKR, the page is so unrefined. So many confusing details.
 
I couldn’t figure it out when I looked at it this morning. I was hoping one of you smart folk would know what was going on.

Might have to email whoever manages the Crosstown East page about this. I think they posted the images in the incorrect locations.
 
If the Humber College stop for the Finch West LRT is to be below grade, why can't the Martin Grove stop on the Eglinton West LRT be one as well?
 
TheTigerMaster said:
I couldn’t figure it out when I looked at it this morning. I was hoping one of you smart folk would know what was going on.

Might have to email whoever manages the Crosstown East page about this. I think they posted the images in the incorrect locations.
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How can anyone have confidence in this upcoming design.
This isn't a typo of adding a "g" to Eglinton, it makes the entire set of options confusing and wrong and the reader does not really have an idea of what is being proposed.
 
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