[Voltz]

**tone of exasperation**

I can't effin' believe that this thing emerges from a perfectly lovely subterranean ROW to stop at the Leslie light - WTF? - only to dive back underground to the Science Centre station which in a just and correct and lofical universe will become a major interline hub on Relief Line. Pretty as this picture is, please God tell me it's a dream.

The locals are to blame for that stupidity, the plans to extend the tunnel to Don Mills were dropped when community associations got up in arms about losing the stop at Leslie, even though the stop would be useless to them. Probably had something to do with wanting the stop to increase their property values.

Although I do think it should be possible to fix the intersection at a later date, and remove the level crossing, possibly by bridging the LRT tracks over the intersection.

 

[M II A II R II K]

It doesn't have to be tunneled, as long as it's off the road.

 

[BurlOak]

**tone of exasperation**

I can't effin' believe that this thing emerges from a perfectly lovely subterranean ROW to stop at the Leslie light - WTF? - only to dive back underground to the Science Centre station which in a just and correct and lofical universe will become a major interline hub on Relief Line. Pretty as this picture is, please God tell me it's a dream.

As I have said before, that was a time when Councillors, MPP's and Metrolinx all had to stop Ford at all costs. This is one of those cost we will be paying for (with poorer service) in perpetuity.

 

[Kitsune]

Leslie is a T interection... why are they running this in the middle of the road ?

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

Leslie is a T interection... why are they running this in the middle of the road ?

It was a Rob Ford solution. He had no interest in making light rail better, just dollar signs.

 

[nfitz]

It was a Rob Ford solution. He had no interest in making light rail better, just dollar signs.

It was in the EA when Miller was mayor. Metrolinx tried to fix, by burying it instead, but the locals had a fit about losing the stop at Leslie, so they went with the approved EA, so that they didn't risk the whole thing blowing up.

 

[M II A II R II K]

Perhaps the Leslie bus can terminate at the Leslie streetcar stop.

 

[AlvinofDiaspar]

It was in the EA when Miller was mayor. Metrolinx tried to fix, by burying it instead, but the locals had a fit about losing the stop at Leslie, so they went with the approved EA, so that they didn't risk the whole thing blowing up.

I am curious as to what the motivation about the locals wanting the stop is - actual usage vs. resellability.

AoD

 

[Rainforest]

For some reason, Metrolinx refused to study the south-of-the-road option. If they did, then we could have both full grade separation and a stop at Leslie so precious to the locals.

Choosing between the current alignment and underground-to-Don Mills, I'd rather take the latter; Leslie / Eglinton could be served by the Leslie bus. But, south-of-the-road would very likely be the best of 3.

 

[Rainforest]

Perhaps the Leslie bus can terminate at the Leslie streetcar stop.

They want to combine 51 Leslie and 56 Leaside into one route.

 

[nfitz]

I am curious as to what the motivation about the locals wanting the stop is - actual usage vs. resellability.

There were some reports at the time. https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...fight_to_put_leslie_stop_back_on_the_map.html

For some reason, Metrolinx refused to study the south-of-the-road option. If they did, then we could have both full grade separation and a stop at Leslie so precious to the locals.

I think they were terrified about opening up the EA, after the residents got going, afraid that with the Rob Ford council, there was a chance the city wouldn't approve it.

They want to combine 51 Leslie and 56 Leaside into one route.

Which would provide a bit of service on Eglinton for the 1.2 km gap between Laird station and Leslie. I believe this is the biggest gap between stations on the line.

 

[Leo_Chan]

Laird Portal

Get ready for more idiots who get stuck because they were "following their GPS".

Claims he was following his GPS.

 

[EastYorkTTCFan]

Get ready for more idiots who get stuck because they were "following their GPS".

Claims he was following his GPS.

I doubt its a likey to happen as the right of way will be in the centre of the road and protected much the way that spadina is. Queens Quay was redesigned poorly in the section by the tunnel there is a confusing piece of roadway the looks like it is part of the sidewalk and not a road. If someone was flowing a GPS that hadn't been updated with the current routing it very well could direct them down it with out them realizing it. In a situation like Spadian or St Crir it's more obvious that it's a separate section of the road.

 

[Palma]

It was in the EA when Miller was mayor. Metrolinx tried to fix, by burying it instead, but the locals had a fit about losing the stop at Leslie, so they went with the approved EA, so that they didn't risk the whole thing blowing up.

but what could the locals possibly do that scared Metrolinx so much?

 

[nfitz]

but what could the locals possibly do that scared Metrolinx so much?

Stir up enough fuss, that people started to talk about the surface LRT through Scarborough to Kennedy, which Ford opposed. As City Hall would have to approve the revised EA, I think what happened is that they decided to make any revisions in the east, to avoid the risk.

You have to remember how gunshy they were by then, after 4 or 5 changes in the city's position.

I'm pretty sure we discussed this in detail a few hundred pages ago.