[Hopkins123]

There's one problem with the alignment: it would be very close to an aquifer. There's a reason why Spring Road in High Park is called such.

But there's no reason why this part of the DRL couldn't be elevated, much like how the Queensway itself is elevated through this stretch. Once it aligns north-south with Parkside Dr and clears the aquifer it could transition via a portal underground north of Spring Rd in the southeast corner of High Park.

 

[Leo_Chan]

I would like to draw a comparison between the Eglinton East LRT and the 198 Rocket Kennedy to UofT Scarborough.

Eglinton East LRT:

198 UofT Scarborough Rocket:

Is it safe to assume that when the Eglinton East LRT gets constructed and opened in 2021+ (assuming it receives funding), that the 198 will disappear? In addition, the LRT will likely have more stops than the bus as well as having its own centre lane ROW (if not elevated).

 

[Midtown Urbanist]

Is it safe to assume that when the Eglinton East LRT gets constructed and opened in 2021+ (assuming it receives funding), that the 198 will disappear? In addition, the LRT will likely have more stops than the bus as well as having its own centre lane ROW (if not elevated).

Probably, yes. This LRT offers local stops.

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

I would put the Lawrence Avenue East and Kingston Road stop/intersection grade separated. It is one of the ten most congested intersections in Toronto, and needs to be separated from the single-occupant motor vehicles.

Ditto for the Eglinton Avenue East and Martin Grove Road intersection/stop.

 

[Voltz]

I would put the Lawrence Avenue East and Kingston Road stop/intersection grade separated. It is one of the ten most congested intersections in Toronto, and needs to be separated from the single-occupant motor vehicles.

Ditto for the Eglinton Avenue East and Martin Grove Road intersection/stop.

Much of the congestion at Lawrence and Kingston Road is on Kingston Road, where the LRT would be in its own lane and immune from that traffic. So I would not say it is worth while to put it underground there.

at Morningside and Kingston Road it was mentioned in the EA that they would probably short turn half the LRT's there to reduce the number of then going through the intersection

 

[Voltz]

I would like to draw a comparison between the Eglinton East LRT and the 198 Rocket Kennedy to UofT Scarborough.


Is it safe to assume that when the Eglinton East LRT gets constructed and opened in 2021+ (assuming it receives funding), that the 198 will disappear? In addition, the LRT will likely have more stops than the bus as well as having its own centre lane ROW (if not elevated).

As mentioned, the LRT would also replace local routes, like the 86 and 116, so it needs the local stops, but the stop spacing on this route is still fairly good.

 

[muller877]

I would put the Lawrence Avenue East and Kingston Road stop/intersection grade separated. It is one of the ten most congested intersections in Toronto, and needs to be separated from the single-occupant motor vehicles.
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The Lawrence/Black Creek is bad both northbound and southbound on Black Creek (and lesser so on Lawrence). A lot of people are turning left which takes up a lot of the signal cycle. Southbound if this was solved a lot of problems would just be pushed down the road to the next light. However northbound it's clear sailing to the 400 and sometimes it takes 3 lights to get through. Could it be solved with a bridge and on/off ramps just like Bayview and Lawrence? The topography even helps here for Lawrence to have a bridge.

There is zero pedestrian traffic here so it should not impact them.

 

[Steve X]

The Lawrence/Black Creek is bad both northbound and southbound on Black Creek (and lesser so on Lawrence). A lot of people are turning left which takes up a lot of the signal cycle. Southbound if this was solved a lot of problems would just be pushed down the road to the next light. However northbound it's clear sailing to the 400 and sometimes it takes 3 lights to get through. Could it be solved with a bridge and on/off ramps just like Bayview and Lawrence? The topography even helps here for Lawrence to have a bridge.

There is zero pedestrian traffic here so it should not impact them.

The Lawrence/Black Creek intersection is better off being built out as an interchanged as originally planned. Land is reserved there for that purpose. If not, a dedicated bus only bridge on Lawrence over can help improve transit in that location. That location is horrible for pedestrians/cyclists.

There would be a lot of opposition for any changes there through. It's in the Black Creek ravine which will automatically draw in the environmentalist and conservation agencies to protest an interchange at that location. Probably a dedicated bus lane with priority is the only option that would work out.

As mentioned, the LRT would also replace local routes, like the 86 and 116, so it needs the local stops, but the stop spacing on this route is still fairly good.

We'll might see the rest of the 86 become branches of 54. The 116C is fairly busy between Sheppard and Lawrence. It makes much more sense to extend the LRT to Sheppard as originally intended.

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

Lawrence Avenue West and Black Creek Drive needs two left turn lanes from the northbound to westbound, instead of the current one left turn lane. Would be better with right turn lanes on each road in the intersection.

BTW. HOV & bus lanes on Black Creek Drive would be an improvement.

 

[Palma]

The Lawrence/Black Creek intersection is better off being built out as an interchanged as originally planned.

There would be a lot of opposition for any changes there through. It's in the Black Creek ravine which will automatically draw in the environmentalist and conservation agencies to protest an interchange at that location. Probably a dedicated bus lane with priority is the only option that would work out.

WEll I for one am against Thais idea. Why cut into a ravine? I thought ravines are not to be touched? I remember once when a councillor said the city does not sell parks (a councillor running against him had suggested this as the park was being run down). So if parks are not sold why would a ravine be taken over for transit. I think taking i lane for an LRT along Black Creek is a good idea. I say close Threteway from Lawrence and divert cars more west towards Jane St

 

[brh]

From everything I can see Mount Dennis is the last stop in the west end but I've read of plans to run it all the way to the Airport. Is this a possibility or are there no firm plans?

 

[DonValleyRainbow]

From everything I can see Mount Dennis is the last stop in the west end but I've read of plans to run it all the way to the Airport. Is this a possibility or are there no firm plans?

Definitely being worked on, council has voted in principle for it, there are studies underway now. If you scroll back through the pages you will be able to find plenty of chit chat about it. Also Google "Crosstown West", and while you're at it, look for "Crosstown East", the proposal to run it to UTSC.

 

[OneCity]

I would put the Lawrence Avenue East and Kingston Road stop/intersection grade separated. It is one of the ten most congested intersections in Toronto, and needs to be separated from the single-occupant motor vehicles.

Ditto for the Eglinton Avenue East and Martin Grove Road intersection/stop.

This area has 2 key intersections at Mornigside and Kingston & Lawrence and Kingston within approx 500m causing major congestion. This is a key corridor for vehicle traffic to and from the Durham region.

If the goal is truly to relieve traffic congestion in this area it might be a better solution to run the local LRT at grade and have an vehicle overpass on Kingston Rd. to jump both of these intersections. It will separate the local traffic from those needing to bypass this section.

 

[Zach6668]

The goal is most certainly not to relieve traffic congestion. That's not the goal of any GTA transit project. If it is, it's rather ill-conceived.

 

[Hopkins123]

This area has 2 key intersections at Mornigside and Kingston & Lawrence and Kingston within approx 500m causing major congestion. This is a key corridor for vehicle traffic to and from the Durham region.

If the goal is truly to relieve traffic congestion in this area it might be a better solution to run the local LRT at grade and have an vehicle overpass on Kingston Rd. to jump both of these intersections. It will separate the local traffic from those needing to bypass this section.

Would it not be simpler and more convenient for most to grade-separate the Crosstown East line through this section?

A single massive station for both Lawrence and Morningside adjacent Kingston Rd could be constructed in a trench through the parking lot of the plaza in the West Hill triangle.