[Tuck]

The spacing is equal or greater to spacing on Line 2.

Yeah, not so bad. It looks like theres way too many stations.... but it's just that the line is really long.

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

Depends upon Toronto's new transportation chief, Barbara Gray. See link.

Toronto hires Seattle planner as new transportation chief

 

[Cobra]

I really hope the Crosstown operates like this.

DAMN! It DOES NOT slow down for intersections. lol

It's never been done in Toronto. Spadina was supposed to be it. Never happened. The current lines are so slow...hence the huge pessimism.

I personally wish it to be so. I trust Metrolinx in their honest intentions to make it this fast but I have no faith in Toronto coordinating this to make it happen.

I'll believe it when I see. I predict a huge slow down east of Don Mills. Metrolinx wanting to grade separate in the west is a huge cue to their skepticism in Toronto making the light priority happen....

It will be fast in the west but not in Scarborough.

 

[TransitBart]

Sam Cass would turn over in his grave...

 

[TheTigerMaster]

Yeah, not so bad. It looks like theres way too many stations.... but it's just that the line is really long.

It'll be the longest rapid transit line in Canada, and among the longest in North America when completed. Los Angeles' Gold Line will be a little bit longer. I presume NYC might have longer lines, but they way they've set up services vs lines makes the comparison not so clear cut (and I don't care enough to research it). The Crosstown LRT alone will increase the size of Toronto's rapid transit network by around 66%

 

[ShonTron]

The spacing is equal or greater to spacing on Line 2.

The map is a little bit outdated: Russell/Eden Valley, East Mall, Rangoon, and Renforth have been cut from the proposed Phase II west section. I also doubt that the Jane or Don Mills LRTs will ever get built either.

The line could be even longer, of course, if the east section is built (replacing the Scarborough-Malvern LRT).

 

[Tuck]

The map is a little bit outdated: Russell/Eden Valley, East Mall, Rangoon, and Renforth have been cut from the proposed Phase II west section. I also doubt that the Jane or Don Mills LRTs will ever get built either.

The line could be even longer, of course, if the east section is built (replacing the Scarborough-Malvern LRT).

Jane might be - it was on the plan Keesmaat put forward. Though it's probably low priority. Don Mills LRT will probably be part of the DRL, though, yeah.

It seemed like we were gonna be getting both the east and west extension, so I hope that is the case. In which case, yeah, it would be even longer than as shown. Which is pretty crazy.

 

[TheTigerMaster]

Can someone remind me what the funding situation for Crosstown East is?

 

[TransitBart]

I also doubt that the Jane or Don Mills LRTs will ever get built either.

Actually, the Jane LRT is explicitly in the plan presented by the city last year in the 15 year timeframe. So it is officially in the next wave after ECLT and FWLRT.

I doubt that the Don Mills LRT will ever see the light of day too. I think that the Relief Line is a much better idea and very likely to happen. Afterall, it has $150M of actual committed funding to finish it to shovel-ready.

 

[Tuck]

Can someone remind me what the funding situation for Crosstown East is?

I'm a bit confused too. Originally, it was a part of the proposed Scarborough extension budget, which was made possible by cutting 2 stations and stopping it at the STC.

But the price of the extension keeps going up. So I'm not even sure if the Crosstown East has funding anymore. It won't have priority over the SSE.

 

[TheTigerMaster]

Actually, the Jane LRT is explicitly in the plan presented by the city last year in the 15 year timeframe. So it is officially in the next wave after ECLT and FWLRT.

I doubt that the Don Mills LRT will ever see the light of day too. I think that the Relief Line is a much better idea and very likely to happen. Afterall, it has $150M of actual committed funding to finish it to shovel-ready.

Jane may be on the map, but I'd be shocked if there's ever any political action taken on it. Politicians don't very much care about City Plannings priorities.

I'm resonably certain that Crosstown West and East and Relief Line Short will be built. I'm quite optimistic that the Relief Line Long extension will materialize in the near future. Everything else is up in the air, in my opinion.

 

[TransitBart]

It'll be the longest rapid transit line in Canada, and among the longest in North America when completed. Los Angeles' Gold Line will be a little bit longer. I presume NYC might have longer lines, but they way they've set up services vs lines makes the comparison not so clear cut (and I don't care enough to research it). The Crosstown LRT alone will increase the size of Toronto's rapid transit network by around 66%

Yes, we'll actually overtake Vancouver again and be the largest rapid transit system in Canada. TYSSE doesn't do. ECLRT does it without the eastern and western extensions. FWLRT nails it.

 

[TheTigerMaster]

I'm a bit confused too. Originally, it was a part of the proposed Scarborough extension budget, which was made possible by cutting 2 stations and stopping it at the STC.

But the price of the extension keeps going up. So I'm not even sure if the Crosstown East has funding anymore. It won't have priority over the SSE.

From my Google-fu: Crosstown East LRT costs $1.7 Billion. $1 Billion of this will come from funds formerly dedicated to the Scarborough Subway. Where the rest will come from is yet to be sleet.

 

[DonValleyRainbow]

Yeah, not so bad. It looks like theres way too many stations.... but it's just that the line is really long.

That's not even including Crosstown East.

It'll be the longest rapid transit line in Canada, and among the longest in North America when completed. Los Angeles' Gold Line will be a little bit longer. I presume NYC might have longer lines, but they way they've set up services vs lines makes the comparison not so clear cut (and I don't care enough to research it). The Crosstown LRT alone will increase the size of Toronto's rapid transit network by around 66%

This is including including Crosstown East. From Pearson to Pan Am Centre, it would be ~42.5 km. Extending to Sheppard adds ~1.5 km.

Also, subject to revisions, that's 25 + 14 + 18/19 stops for central, west and east portions respectively. 58 stops is twice as many as the LA gold line.

 

[Markster]

It'll be the longest rapid transit line in Canada, and among the longest in North America when completed. Los Angeles' Gold Line will be a little bit longer.

When the LA downtown connector is complete, the northern portion of the Gold line will be be connected with the Blue Line to Long Beach. That line will be about 73km long.