robmausser
Senior Member
Yep.
Live directly inbetween Lawrence and Eglinton stations on Yonge and I will probably start backtracking to Lawrence when that thing opens to get a seat.
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Yep.
Live directly inbetween Lawrence and Eglinton stations on Yonge and I will probably start backtracking to Lawrence when that thing opens to get a seat.
TheTigerMaster
Superstar
Solución española favor?
nfitz
Superstar
Nadie espera que la solución española. No hay espacio para ello.
ehlow
Senior Member
Instead of lining up to get on an overcrowded bus, then the bus sitting there in the bay for 5-10 min with doors open, then the bus spending 5 minutes just getting from the bus bay to Yonge-Eg, then spending 15 minutes in traffic & construction to Bayview, you'll be boarding an underground train with much higher capacity quickly zipping to Bayview in a tunnel.
When you head downtown you'll be waiting in a heated underground station instead of a bus shelter.
Of all people, I wouldn't expect you to be complaining about the Eglinton Crosstown being built
nfitz
Superstar
When did we start heating stations on the Yonge line?
I haven't really spent too much time at Eglinton station in the winter, but St. Clair is brutally cold.
Davisville too
Midtown Urbanist
Superstar
Instead of lining up to get on an overcrowded bus, then the bus sitting there in the bay for 5-10 min with doors open, then the bus spending 5 minutes just getting from the bus bay to Yonge-Eg, then spending 15 minutes in traffic & construction to Bayview, you'll be boarding an underground train with much higher capacity quickly zipping to Bayview in a tunnel.
When you head downtown you'll be waiting in a heated underground station instead of a bus shelter.
Of all people, I wouldn't expect you to be complaining about the Eglinton Crosstown being built
Oh I am not complaining. Just observant of the fact that crowding at Yonge-Eglinton is going to be a concern at morning AM peak. Today seemed a taste of whats to come.
Hopefully I underestimate the number of people who will continue traveling west towards the Spadina line and things at Yonge-Eglinton will not be so bad. Then again, many people might also continue eastbound past Eglinton West, and we are adding so many more residents to Midtown.
As for me personally, by the time Eglinton opens, I will have graduated and likely moved out. My shot at commuting to school by subway on Eglinton died with Mike Harris.
Monarch Butterfly
Superstar
The deeper a station is, the warmer it will be. Closer to the Earth's core.
Actually, the frost line in Toronto is about 4' or 1.25m. However, because of the colder weather this year, that frost line may go deeper. The earth acts like insulation, so that 1.25m is in all directions in a station, above, sideways, and below. Of course, the deeper the station, the most "insulation" there is above.
The heat generated by the trains (braking, heaters, etc.), booths, and body heat is what heats the stations.
Actually, the frost line in Toronto is about 4' or 1.25m. However, because of the colder weather this year, that frost line may go deeper. The earth acts like insulation, so that 1.25m is in all directions in a station, above, sideways, and below. Of course, the deeper the station, the most "insulation" there is above.
The heat generated by the trains (braking, heaters, etc.), booths, and body heat is what heats the stations.
nfitz
Superstar
Unless we are going down a few miles, surely the temperature in the station is going to be a function of the ventilation shafts - and on the Yonge line in particular, how far it is to the nearest portal.
Markster
Senior Member
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AlvinofDiaspar
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From the Globe:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...-first-step-into-real-estate/article23194119/
Overdue indeed, though they are probably just small fries compared to other choice sites. I don't think comparison with Hong Kong is appropriate however - one should temper their expectations.
AoD
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...-first-step-into-real-estate/article23194119/
Overdue indeed, though they are probably just small fries compared to other choice sites. I don't think comparison with Hong Kong is appropriate however - one should temper their expectations.
AoD
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Monarch Butterfly
Superstar
The TTC and GO both should be real estate developers, just how they do in Asia. In Asia the actually own the land around their stations. They are then able to get a revenue stream from office and residential leases.
Unfortunately, there would be some who rather sell off that land for the immediate cash windfall. The only trouble is that once they used up all those funds, it's gone. We saw that with many of the city's properties being sold off for the immediate cash. See Envwave, which was owned by the city but sold for the cash.
Hopefully if they have success with this, they can expand to orchestrating development of the massive parking lots surrounding many GO stations. There's enough land there to build entire communities around them. There's the potential there, if Metrolinx gets into the property management business, to generate some pretty significant income from those locations, which could in turn help subsidize the transit system. Transit-adjacent condos, apartments, and office space is at a premium, and if GO RER becomes a reality, could become even more desirable.
AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
gweed:
Indeed. I think revenue from property development is nice, but it should be secondary to creating communities that would sustain long-term transit use. It would be interesting to see how they can insulate themselves from neighbourhood NIMBYism and move forward on these schemes.
AoD
Indeed. I think revenue from property development is nice, but it should be secondary to creating communities that would sustain long-term transit use. It would be interesting to see how they can insulate themselves from neighbourhood NIMBYism and move forward on these schemes.
AoD
For Lakeshore West in particular, the stations are generally in industrial or commercial areas. They generally don't put up as much of a fight as residential areas when it comes to new development. Sites like Aldershot, Burlington, Appleby, Bronte, Oakville, and others like Bramalea and Oshawa would make great redevelopment sites.
You can build complexes of buildings where the ground floor is retail, the next few floors are GO parking, and above that are condominium, apartment, or office towers. Many of those parking lots are rectangular, so a central pedestrian boulevard with store frontage down the middle, with vehicular access on the outside of the sites I think would work very well.
howl
Active Member
Cooksville is a prime property too.