[mrxbombastic]

From my perspective, it's necessary. Our transit system needs to catch up and be expanded. We need more transit tunnels & stations built, both for this and other lines, and therefore we need to make it through the years of construction. I'll be personally experiencing this when the construction reaches central Eglinton.

I took the article to be in a lot of ways, minus the contractor sewer flub, to be about whining local businesses who fought to get LRT construction in their neighborhood but now think suddenly it was a terrible idea. traffic lanes will be reduced. Metrolinx has taken careful cause to stage the pilings work to allow some traffic .get over it people its for the greater good in the end.

 

[Hipster Duck]

Well, the good citizens of Oakwood and Eglinton demanded a station, so they're going to get the ensuing mess that results when you build a station box.

Of course, had they just figured out that walking 400 meters to Eglinton West station isn't the end of the world, saves tens of millions of dollars in construction costs and time delays, and makes travel for everyone else about a minute faster, they wouldn't be in this predicament.

Karma.

 

[ehlow]

Well, the good citizens of Oakwood and Eglinton demanded a station, so they're going to get the ensuing mess that results when you build a station box.

Of course, had they just figured out that walking 400 meters to Eglinton West station isn't the end of the world, saves tens of millions of dollars in construction costs and time delays, and makes travel for everyone else about a minute faster, they wouldn't be in this predicament.

Karma.

That's a very strange way of looking at it. They will be getting a transit station, so which actually a very good thing for the residents of Oakwood and Eglinton, not some punishment as you have implied.

As a resident who lives near Eglinton, I view the new transit line as a good thing for us and the transit system in general, and will likely raise property values along it. I'm totally fine with the construction because it will be well worth it. I want an LRT station near my home, and the construction that comes with it, I don't see it as a "predicament".

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

One big problem Eglinton Avenue has is the lack of alternative routes around the construction. When they were building the initial Yonge Subway, Yonge Street was completely closed off to ALL vehicles, including the streetcars, during installation and removal of the decking. However, they at least were able to detour the traffic at least one, two, or a few short block to Bay Street, Victoria Street, and Church Street. Eglinton Avenue East and West does not have that "luxury".

At least this time the decking is only over the stations and not the rest.

 

[howl]

http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/0...-construction-along-eglinton-not-encouraging/

Apparently a sewer has been filled with cement....

Why do they use a picture of the Hurontario LRT, with the caption "Project renderings for the future LRT at Cooksville, Eglinton and Dundas - Matthew Williams"?

 

[Hipster Duck]

That's a very strange way of looking at it. They will be getting a transit station, so which actually a very good thing for the residents of Oakwood and Eglinton, not some punishment as you have implied.

As a resident who lives near Eglinton, I view the new transit line as a good thing for us and the transit system in general, and will likely raise property values along it. I'm totally fine with the construction because it will be well worth it. I want an LRT station near my home, and the construction that comes with it, I don't see it as a "predicament".

Well, the punishment for the rest of us is that a station at Oakwood (and Chaplin, etc.) will only attract a few thousand walk on passengers but will cost tens of millions to build. It will also increase travel times for the vast majority of EC users. I'm not against the line, I'm against what I think are unnecessary stations. Then again, that ship sailed a long time ago, so me arguing about it on an internet discussion board is sort of moot.

The "karma" is that the residents who demanded this stop in their own interests now get to face the fact that you can't build a subway station without dealing with the dust, noise and disruption that subway construction actually entails.

 

[ehlow]

Well, the punishment for the rest of us is that a station at Oakwood (and Chaplin, etc.) will only attract a few thousand walk on passengers but will cost tens of millions to build. It will also increase travel times for the vast majority of EC users. I'm not against the line, I'm against what I think are unnecessary stations. Then again, that ship sailed a long time ago, so me arguing about it on an internet discussion board is sort of moot.

The "karma" is that the residents who demanded this stop in their own interests now get to face the fact that you can't build a subway station without dealing with the dust, noise and disruption that subway construction actually entails.

Well, there will be tons of construction to go around for everyone near Eglinton for the next 6 years whether there's a stop near by or further down, so, I guess, enjoy the "revenge" lol.

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

Well, the punishment for the rest of us is that a station at Oakwood (and Chaplin, etc.) will only attract a few thousand walk on passengers but will cost tens of millions to build. It will also increase travel times for the vast majority of EC users. I'm not against the line, I'm against what I think are unnecessary stations. Then again, that ship sailed a long time ago, so me arguing about it on an internet discussion board is sort of moot.

The "karma" is that the residents who demanded this stop in their own interests now get to face the fact that you can't build a subway station without dealing with the dust, noise and disruption that subway construction actually entails.

With that sort of thinking, maybe we should get rid of and abandon any existing subway station that you don't use.

Maybe start with the stations with the lowest station usage. Use this link to download the PDF. What would be your cut-off point of no return?

Summerhill 5,880
Glencairn 6,140
Old Mill 5,790
Chester 6,760
Bessarion 2,550
Leslie 5,880

?

 

[salsa]

With that sort of thinking, maybe we should get rid of and abandon any existing subway station that you don't use.

Maybe start with the stations with the lowest station usage. Use this link to download the PDF. What would be your cut-off point of no return?

?

I would close the Sheppard line on evenings and weekends. The lack of riders I see there is cringeworthy.

 

[Hipster Duck]

With that sort of thinking, maybe we should get rid of and abandon any existing subway station that you don't use.

Maybe start with the stations with the lowest station usage. Use this link to download the PDF. What would be your cut-off point of no return?

?

I wouldn't abandon any existing stations, but if we were building these stations from scratch I wouldn't build any of them except Leslie because of its connection to a bus line along an arterial road.

Then again, I wouldn't have built the Sheppard line as a subway at all.

 

[Midtown Urbanist]

It will also increase travel times for the vast majority of EC users.

I really don't buy this argument. The vast majority of EC users are getting off at Eglinton West, Yonge, Kennedy and (hopefully) Don Mills, or for local use. They in reality will only be using the EC for 4-5 stops at a time max.

Oakwood, Chaplin, Avenue won't effect their commutes.

 

[Palma]

With that sort of thinking, maybe we should get rid of and abandon any existing subway station that you don't use.

Maybe start with the stations with the lowest station usage. Use this link to download the PDF. What would be your cut-off point of no return?

?

And what would be wrong with that?

 

[Palma]

Well, the punishment for the rest of us is that a station at Oakwood (and Chaplin, etc.) will only attract a few thousand walk on passengers but will cost tens of millions to build. It will also increase travel times for the vast majority of EC users. I'm not against the line, I'm against what I think are unnecessary stations. Then again, that ship sailed a long time ago, so me arguing about it on an internet discussion board is sort of moot.

The "karma" is that the residents who demanded this stop in their own interests now get to face the fact that you can't build a subway station without dealing with the dust, noise and disruption that subway construction actually entails.

Can you imagine, walking 400 metres is a punishment. Then when condo development starts, those residents will be against that.

 

[Palma]

Metrolinx was being decidedly ambitious when it decided to get everything done by 2020, and, apparently corners were cut. Not knowing which hole you're supposed to be filling with cement is failing a pretty basic test for a contractor. And they want *all* the stations built *at one time*, instead of in stages, as TTC suggested they should? Oh, boy.

It is telling that Jack Collins is not confirming that the project will be finished in 2020. 2022, here we come.

Why can they not build them one at a time or why would the contractor not want to do so? Why not start now - they have gone by Keele so start that station. I think when people start seeing the actual station being build it makes it more immediate. Once they have gone pass Caledonia and are at Dufferin, they could start Caledonia and so on.

 

[smallspy]

Can you imagine, walking 400 metres is a punishment. Then when condo development starts, those residents will be against that.

It's not "walking 400 metres".

It's walking an additional 400 metres once you've finally reached Eglinton. Or worse yet, running a parallel bus service (and having to pay for it).

Only a small percentage of the catchment area of any given station is on Eglinton.

Dan
Toronto, Ont.