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Really? Do you seriously think that Wynne is sitting in her office plotting how to make riding the ECLRT miserable for riders?

Give me a break.

The reason why SRT and ECLRT aren't being interlined have been discussed here multiple times. It improves service reliability on the SRT while encouraging Downtown bound trips coming from Scarborough to take the BD subway.

Any more conspiracy theories you want to throw at us?

The line being separated is simply due to the fact that Eglinton will be at grade between Don Mills and Kennedy. If both lines were grade separated, they would have been merged.

What conspiracy are you talking about?

It remains to be seen what the NDP would do. (I usually vote for them so no, I don't vote conservative)

The PC would most likely cancel Sheppard and Finch to bury Eglinton and connect it to the SRT. ( I disagree with that but elavated + Finch would be a better option). But I do conceed that the DRL would be in danger
 
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I hope Wynne, at least stays around long enough, that this project is too far along, to be canceled by WhoDat.

My prediction is that the budget will pass along with all of her transit taxes. Then, the opposition will call for an election. Either the NDP and PC will win and keep the taxes in places and keep blaming the liberals for it.

PC will lower taxes to sell "their decision to keep the transit taxes in and promise not to misuse it". Building subways in Scarborough and showing the finger to the Downtown core. (DRL being in danger...well downtown doesn't vote for them right?) Building new highways as well

NDP will keep the taxes, blaming the Liberals for it and promise to not waste it. I see them subsidizing transit again but that would affect how many projects would be financed since they wouldn't be able to invest as much to build subways and GO.

Just my opinion
 
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Agreed, it's a missed opportunity to get rid of a useless transfer point. Nothing's for sure yet... Wynne's days as Premier are numbered...
Nothing's for sure yet, but Wynne likely won't call an election unless she's at least going to get another minority, and the NDP show no signs of triggering an election soon - nor do I expect they would if Hudak was in majority territory.

Hudak has already promised he won't build subway when elected, and would cancel existing LRT projects ... perhaps considering subway, but not LRT, years away, after the budget is balanced (but first he will cut taxes ... not sure I understand that paradox).

NDP have promised nothing ... though given their poor transit record of deferring subways for years, and significant cuts to GO Transit, when in power ...

I doubt anything will change unless the leaders change. And I doubt the leaders will change before the next city election ... by which time the SRT will have been tendered, and construction will be underway.
 
Really? Do you seriously think that Wynne is sitting in her office plotting how to make riding the ECLRT miserable for riders?

Give me a break.

The reason why SRT and ECLRT aren't being interlined have been discussed here multiple times. It improves service reliability on the SRT while encouraging Downtown bound trips coming from Scarborough to take the BD subway.

Any more conspiracy theories you want to throw at us?

Plotting? Just pointing out that if she's out, so will Transit City Mark II
 
Nothing's for sure yet, but Wynne likely won't call an election unless she's at least going to get another minority, and the NDP show no signs of triggering an election soon - nor do I expect they would if Hudak was in majority territory.

Hudak has already promised he won't build subway when elected, and would cancel existing LRT projects ... perhaps considering subway, but not LRT, years away, after the budget is balanced (but first he will cut taxes ... not sure I understand that paradox).

NDP have promised nothing ... though given their poor transit record of deferring subways for years, and significant cuts to GO Transit, when in power ...

I doubt anything will change unless the leaders change. And I doubt the leaders will change before the next city election ... by which time the SRT will have been tendered, and construction will be underway.

She won't last the year. It would be bad for both the NDP and PC to give her the time to prove to Ontarians that she can govern and do better than McGuinty and themselves. Letting her stay Premier is giving her the time she needs to establish herself as a competent and credible Premier. She won't get that chance.

There's a reason why minority governments in Canada rarely make it beyond the 2 year mark
 
The line being separated is simply due to the fact that Eglinton will be at grade between Don Mills and Kennedy. If both lines were grade separated, they would have been merged.

I don't see how this invalidates anything I said.

It frustrates me that the eastern portion isn't being elevated. Part of me is hoping that Metrolinx will go ahead and elevate it without input from CoT, but I know that's nothing more than a pipe dream.

It remains to be seen what the NDP would do. (I usually vote for them so no, I don't vote conservative)

The PC would most likely cancel Sheppard and Finch to bury Eglinton and connect it to the SRT. ( I disagree with that but elavated + Finch would be a better option). But I do conceed that the DRL would be in danger

Don't think the NDP would cancel any of the already funded projects. Their main objection (illogically) is the "transit tax". So don't be surprised if they repeal any funding tools.

I also tend to vote NDP or Liberal, but the irrationality of the NDP regarding the transit issue has just lost them my vote. The Libs seem to be the only one with a shred of common sense re this issue.
 
She won't last the year. It would be bad for both the NDP and PC to give her the time to prove to Ontarians that she can govern and do better than McGuinty and themselves. Letting her stay Premier is giving her the time she needs to establish herself as a competent and credible Premier. She won't get that chance.
Howarth has already indicated she'll give Wynne the chance. She's even offered up what she'll take to support he budget. Meanwhile the most recent polls have shown the Liberals and Tories statistically tied, with NDP support plummeting since Christmas when some polls were putting them in the lead.

There's a reason why minority governments in Canada rarely make it beyond the 2 year mark
This was the strongest minority government I'm aware of in Canadian history (the closest to being a majority).

Personally, my money would be on Spring 2016 for the next election unless the Liberals start to move into majority territory in the polls (Fall 2014 and Fall 2015 might be more likely, but surely the odds are much longer on Spring 2016).
 
Howarth has already indicated she'll give Wynne the chance. She's even offered up what she'll take to support he budget. Meanwhile the most recent polls have shown the Liberals and Tories statistically tied, with NDP support plummeting since Christmas when some polls were putting them in the lead.

The more reason why she will support an early election. The more she waits, the worse it will get for the NDP and the more people will forget about the gas plant scandal as well. Besides, since when politicians ever said the truth?
 
The problem is that the NDP have no chance of forming a government. They will not call an election that the PCs will win, as that would just make the political situation for the NDP even worse. The NDP are the most powerful they have been since Rae, and I don't think they will be willingly giving up that so that an even more conservative government can form office. An election will only be called in two scenarios, one is if it looks as though the NDP have a solid chance of forming government, even with the PCs being the opposition, or it looks as though the Liberals have a solid chance of staying in power but with a larger amount of NDP seats.
 
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The problem is that the NDP have no chance of forming a government. They will not call an election that the PCs will win, as that would just make the political situation for the NDP even worse. The NDP are the most powerful they have been since Rae, and I don't think they will be willingly giving up that so that an even more conservative government can form office. An election will only be called in two scenarios, one is if it looks as though the NDP have a solid chance of forming government, even with the PCs being the opposition, or it looks as though the Liberals have a solid chance of staying in power but with a larger amount of NDP seats.

Great analysis.

I'll add something to it. What if the NDP were trying to replicate what Mulcair's been doing at the federal level? Could they choose to go closer to the center-left and use the Liberal scandals to crush them. Can she get the PC vote? No

Her only chance is to go after the Liberal voters who are extremely dissatisfy with the Liberals and McGuinty's legacy. By advertising yourself as "more trustworthy and more competent Liberalites" they might swing those votes their way.

Winning the title of "Official Opposition" by crushing the Liberals is even better than what they are now. They would have 4 years to make the case that they can govern the whole province better than the PC.

Sure, having the balance of power sounds good, but if it was that good, minority government would last longer. What usually happens is the one who holds the "balance of power" who risks falling into irrelevancy.

The bottom line is, voters don't care who holds the balance of power otherwise why has her support kept dropping? Supporting the same party that has brought us all those scandals will not do her any favors in the long run. She's just helping Wynne consolidating her power and proving to the population that she's a better Premier than she'll ever be. Reminds me of : "She's just that other girl I used to date once but can't remember her name now because I've moved on to better things."

Horwath need to take advantage of Wynne's connection to McGuinty and to not let her consolidate her power and build a credibility. She knows that.

The Transit taxes are needed, she knows it all too well. Why would you put yourself in the position of voting them in or cancelling them when you can just let your enemy do it for you, then blame them during the campaign.

Once you get into power, you can say something like " The Liberals left Ontario in a worse financial mess then expected and although we strongly disagree with those taxes, we have no choice but to let them be". Then you give yourself 4 years for Ontarians to get use to them and forget how much of a pain they are.

By then, some of the projects will be delivered during your mandate....taking credit for what your predecessor started...
You can subsidize transit which might lower the fares of Transit Organization...which you would take credit for.
Which makes the Transit taxes and your decision to keep them more acceptable.

I would not be surprised if the PC did the same but expect
-Highways and some subway constructions and no LRT
-Might lower taxes with the money of cancelled Transit projects
 
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