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The Mount Dennis Mobility Hub Update and Station Design Review was yesterday, Wednesday, April 10th. For those who could not attend, you can link to the Presentation at this link.

You can download the presentation in PDF format by pressing this link. Warning, it is 116 pages long.

They want to keep the old Kodak building, but haven't decided on what to do with it, just "re-purposing". What about for part of the "enhanced pedestrian/cyclist connectivity", they use a floor or two of the Kodak plant for a bicycle station, like Toronto's City Hall (proposed) or Chicago's Millennium Park Bicycle Station (McDonald's Cycle Center)? Maybe when the Kennedy Station plans come out, they could add a bicycle station at that end of the Crosstown LRT.

Its good that the "Eglinton Wall" on the north side Eglinton at Mount Dennis will go. Would like to see it replaced by a "green wall".
 
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Nice work by Metrolinx. I certainly wasn't expecting anything of this scale. This station could very well be the most impressive on the Crosstown.
 
When was the Crosstown's opening day moved ahead? On the second final slide, it shows that it's scheduled to open in 2020 instead of 2022/2023.
 
The presentation makes it so. The Mount Dennis Station will be the:

Terminal station of Phase 1 of the new Eglinton Crosstown LRT line
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In addition, the 15-Bay Bus Terminal will be:

Intended to be reduced in size following the extension of the LRT west
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Opening Day:
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Low-rise development:
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bleu said:
That I totally agree.
On those miserable -15 plus snow and wind days, whether you have to walk only 3 or 5 minutes to the subway station makes a huge difference in terms of your comfort level, everyday. I will put a big premium on a property right on the subway over another only 400 meters away (which is a long distance when weather is bad. We are not in Los Angeles when walking is always pleasant).

Erskine is really not that close. I went there this Jan, and from the station it seem to have taken a long time, when I needed to navigate on the heavy snow covered sidewalks.
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So you have to walk 3 or 5 mintues to walk to the subway, yet you want residents in Scarborough to run to a center median in the midddle of Eglinton Road in winter to deal with splashing slush and outdoor temps - and you expect this to get anyone out of their car??????

On top of that, you want a DRL, because the two or three subways at minimum that people have access to in the core, isn't enough. And yet you wonder why the suburbs vote for Ford?????
 
^ Wanting something and needing something are two different things. We need a DRL, whereas putting the entire length of the Crosstown underground is a want.

Anyways, I wonder if they lowered the height because of pressure from the planning department? Because apparently it sold well.
 
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So you have to walk 3 or 5 mintues to walk to the subway, yet you want residents in Scarborough to run to a center median in the midddle of Eglinton Road in winter to deal with splashing slush and outdoor temps - and you expect this to get anyone out of their car??????

On top of that, you want a DRL, because the two or three subways at minimum that people have access to in the core, isn't enough. And yet you wonder why the suburbs vote for Ford?????
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junior43 said:
So you have to walk 3 or 5 mintues to walk to the subway, yet you want residents in Scarborough to run to a center median in the midddle of Eglinton Road in winter to deal with splashing slush and outdoor temps - and you expect this to get anyone out of their car??????

On top of that, you want a DRL, because the two or three subways at minimum that people have access to in the core, isn't enough. And yet you wonder why the suburbs vote for Ford?????
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Study after study clearly shows that people will not get out of their cars unless you make transit convenient, cheap, and pleasant. I already limit my travel to places served by subway and my commuting behaviour seems to mirror what these studies indicate. Ignoring that fact isn't going to solve a thing.

The idea that Toronto has enough subway lines is comical to anyone who's actually lived in a city with a proper subway system. Put a subway on Queen AND build a DRL on Front. The current 'system' is absurdly small.
 
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Study after study clearly shows that people will not get out of their cars unless you make transit convenient, cheap, and pleasant. I already limit my travel to places served by subway and my commuting behaviour seems to mirror what these studies indicate. Ignoring that fact isn't going to solve a thing.

The idea that Toronto has enough subway lines is comical to anyone who's actually lived in a city with a proper subway system. Put a subway on Queen AND build a DRL on Front. The current 'system' is absurdly small.
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there are actually people who think Toronto has enough subway lines??

We need two W-E lines below Bloor st, like you said, then one on Eglinton, one on Sheppard， and a new NS line east of the DVP and one west of Spadina. Then we probably can say Toronto is well served by subway lines.

People in Toronto will NOT get out of their car because our transit system actually sucks. One a scale of 1-10, I will probably give it a 4. Do we really expect people to wait for a streetcar or bus for 15 minutes in the winter?

If I ever moved to north of Bloor, the first thing I do is to buy a car.
 
Do we really expect people to wait for a streetcar or bus for 15 minutes in the winter?
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I do it and so do many others. That's part of the tradeoff of not owning a car. Cheaper though sometimes you have to wait.
 
too bad our dream system would cost 100 billion dollars. which in case you haven't noticed, isn't exactly lying around in people's pockets. Yes, in a dream world we would get a DRL, Queen Line, Sheppard line, and Eglinton line, as well as fast, frequent urban rail (think: S-Bahn), but in reality we can't do that without spending ourselves to death. Toronto's GDP is currently around $260 billion, and that is for the entire region. If you were to build a subway network that reached every end of the city, you could easily spend 100% of that. The current plan is for $2 billion a year to be put towards transit, about 0.7% of the GDP. We would get some new subway lines, where the ridership numbers don't allow for anything else (Yonge Extension, DRL) and LRT in other spots. (Hurontario, Hamilton) then we would get S-Bahn style service on the lakeshore GO corridor, with all day 2 way service like currently on the lakeshore corridor brought to the Stouffville, Barrie, and Kitchener lines. We would also receive 86km of BRT.

Put simply, as nice as it would be to have a subway to your front door, it is simply not realistic to expect that when they cost 350 million dollars a km to construct.

To help you understand how our transit will be expanding in the near future, I have made a few maps.

LEGEND:
Thick Coloured Lines...........................Grade separated rapid transit (subway, underground or elevated LRT)...........33km/h
Thin Coloured Lines............................Middle of the street ROW LRT....................................................................24km/h
Thick Black Lines................................S-Bahn style GO urban, electrified rail.........................................................50-60km/h
Thin Black Lines.................................All day 2 way GO service (what is currently on the lakeshore lines).................45-55km/h
Red Lines..........................................BRT........................................................................................................35km/h

Today's transit network

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What is currently Funded:

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What is coming if the transit tax is passed:

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What Hudak promises if he wins office:

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ALSO fares need to be divided in HALF in order to compare to any other pedestrian friendly city the size of Toronto.
Oh and mobile phone service would also bring major business. Every european city has had it in their subways for over 10 years now.
 
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