[smallspy]

What exactly happened to them to reach this level of decay? Were they stripped for parts and left to rot? Or vandalism

These were actively being scrapped.

They were not being stored for future use. They had already long since passed that.

Probably both. I've seen pics of some 50 streetcars in this state in Greenwood Yard, and a pic taken inside one of the vehicles, where some of the furnishings were still partially intact, like the old stuffed upholstered seats. I was joking of course, they were being kept for scrap, but I don't know why they sat around for a few years.

Cars that were stored for long-term purposes were run every couple of weeks to ensure that they held air, didn't freeze up, etc. They were sometimes kept off-wire in order to save on power, but the yards did have overhead.

This is in contrast to the Witt cars and trailers stored after the opening of the Yonge Line. They were stored off-wire in temporary yards - primarily to hold them until they could be taken away for scrapping.

The cars in the images you posted before, however, were none of those.

Dan

 

[fiendishlibrarian]

These were actively being scrapped.

They were not being stored for future use. They had already long since passed that.


Cars that were stored for long-term purposes were run every couple of weeks to ensure that they held air, didn't freeze up, etc. They were sometimes kept off-wire in order to save on power, but the yards did have overhead.

This is in contrast to the Witt cars and trailers stored after the opening of the Yonge Line. They were stored off-wire in temporary yards - primarily to hold them until they could be taken away for scrapping.

The cars in the images you posted before, however, were none of those.

Dan

I'm pretty certain some retired Gloucesters were stored at Keele Yard.

 

[crs1026]

I'm pretty certain some retired Gloucesters were stored at Keele Yard.

And were vandalised and had an arson fire while in that location.

- Paul

 

[crs1026]

This is in contrast to the Witt cars and trailers stored after the opening of the Yonge Line. They were stored off-wire in temporary yards - primarily to hold them until they could be taken away for scrapping.

The cars in the images you posted before, however, were none of those.

Dan

Indeed. Note that some photos are of air electrics not the CLRV-displaced PCC's in post-70's rebuilt condition. The deadline that formed at Wychwood after the arrival of the CLRV's was a different proposition than earlier deadlines of air-electric PCC's that happened as Line 2 opened and the air-electrics were phased out - some sold, some scrapped.

- Paul

 

[ShonTron]

That last picture at the scrapyard appears to show the CCF-Brill trolley coach shells too, making it date from 1972-1975ish. It also looks like the PCC bodies were burned before being processed for scrap metal.

 

[hw621]

We are now talking about scrapped streetcars, so no, Line 5 is not opening...

 

[Jane2021]

Yea how is this relevant to the Eglinton Crosstown can we get back on track please

 

[pleaseLRT]

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Similar sign at Don Mills and Eglinton (I assume they're at all station stops)

 

[thettctransitfanatic]

 

[MisterF]

Similar sign at Don Mills and Eglinton (I assume they're at all station stops)
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It's unfortunate that the TTC just refers to GO services at Kennedy and Mount Dennis as "GO". The reader can't tell which line serves those stations so its usefulness is limited at best. The new subway announcements are the same - "transfer to GO Transit". Well okay, but what GO transit? Which line? Is it a train station or bus stop? If signs like this show specific subway lines then they should also show specific GO rail lines. Which agency runs it should be irrelevant.

A truly integrated transit system for the GTA is still a long way off.

 

[toronto647]

Is this line opening in 118 hours (5 days) from now? or is it delayed again?

 

[drum118]

Is this line opening in 118 hours (5 days) from now? or is it delayed again?

Wait tell TTC meeting on Tuesday to hear when considering all other other levels have said Feb 8 with TTC notices posted at various stop for Feb 8

 

[A 6264]

In advance of today's announcement, I'll take credit for having made a couple of predictions.

1. I made a joke that Line 5's opening should be regarded as a rivalry with NASA, who are planning their moon rocket launch for Feb 8, "at the earliest". Either the TTC or NASA have the option of changing their date to a later one, so it's still a race. Making it a rivalry might encourage the TTC to be bold and stop delaying. If both events do happen Feb. 8, Line 5's will be in the early morning, so we could still beat them by hours, though I have no idea what time of day NASA would be doing their launch, so they could still get theirs in ahead of ours.

2. I made another joke that early or late launch date should be decided on Groundhog Day, depending on whether the train sees its shadow. Today's announcement is going to be 2 days later. But it was close.

 

[zang]

A truly integrated transit system for the GTA is still a long way off.

I mean, it only took what, nearly 15 years for us to get subway voice announcements of connecting lines at Union and other stations.

 

[PL1]

I mean, it only took what, nearly 15 years for us to get subway voice announcements of connecting lines at Union and other stations.

*Garbled, sometimes inaudible* voice announcements...