Bojaxs
Senior Member
Funny, I feel the same way.
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McGillicuddy
Active Member
Then perhaps next time you'll take the note.
Chaplinurbex
New Member
How about we just see what it's like when it opens?
generalcanada
Senior Member
oh look the 2020 date is being brought up again.
urbanclient
Senior Member
I don't think slow speeds are as simple as blaming it all on Crosslinx like @smallspy is claiming: see the too many cooks in the kitchen analogy or the 3 spider-mans pointing at each other situation from the Finch thread.
Too many let their personal politics cloud their judgment to the point where they are almost saying:
X party is bad--->X party is involved in Y project--->X party is wholly to blame for this particular Y project problem. See screenshots:
You cannot pin the lack of TSP on Crosslinx. Especially when a Line 5 operator (formerly Line 1) is saying City Transportation Services and other City bureaucrats told them 'point blank' that they won't be prioritizing transit over left turning cars.
They are a reactionary who only wants to hear positive news about LRT projects. A cognitive shift is unlikely with deeply entrenched system justification bias.
They don't want to hear about problems, but they also have little interest in understanding the nuances required to solve them. See: them telling me to shut up when I pointed out the TTC Board confirmed end-to-end travel times of ≥50 minutes on December 10th.
They 'feel', not 'analyze' or 'reason critically'.
Same logic as the pervasive intellectually incurious hand-waving: 'do it like they do in Europe'.
I say this all, hoping that these LRTs reach their greatest potential from their current sorry state, whatever that potential may be. City Transportation Services needs to be gutted by offering early retirement to the luddite geezers opposing strong TSP. They are doing it for the federal public service, they can do it for the city.
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nfitz
Superstar
How the frig doesn't their contract with Metrolinx require them to operate to the average speeds and travel times that are in the planning documents (corrected for the lack of transit priority).
Hopefully those in the Eglinton consortium don't suffer from the ethical failings of those in the Finch consortium.
txlseries4
Active Member
Planned and told straight down the barrel of a news camera at a news conference are different things. Has been anything but common knowledge.
Strikes me as working to build a narrative to temper expectations since despite only being the operator, TTC knows they'll receive blame for everything because the public doesn't know and frankly doesn't care.
picard102
Senior Member
Doug would never implement TSP.
yurt2022
Active Member
Everyone has been saying that Metrolinx/Mosaic has a part of the blame in the slow speeds of Line 6.
Now we can see that this stupidity is the sole fault of the TTC. I wonder how Mosaic and Metrolinx were able to operate Line 6 at its designed speed and advertised travel times without implementing any "signal priority."
Monarch Butterfly
Superstar
We have a new "rapid" transit line.
Appearance will be a "soft" opening on February 8th.
Appearance will be a "soft" opening on February 8th.
urbanclient
Senior Member
I'll pre-empt someone defending the TTC, by adding, the snow removal issue is very likely, and poor reliability of the vehicles and trackside infrastructure are certainly Mosaic's fault (documented on Line 6), and by that logic, Crosslinx's fault for Eglinton as well. Not TTC. Since Metrolinx oversees these two consortiums to some degree, it would also be Metrolinx's fault for being a bad supervisor right now.
That or the contracts were so lopsided that Metrolinx is entirely powerless. Terminating a contract for non-performance is predicated on performance terms actually being written.
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PL1
Senior Member
It's possible (and even likely) that several of the organizations are cumulatively responsible for any delays/slow travel. I doubt any are blameless
yurt2022
Active Member
TTC management needs to be purged.
Chow and the board haven't been questioning staff that blatantly lie and consistently present a defeatist attitude to commissioners during board meetings either. This is on them for not having a handle on their divisions.
I.e Josh Colle (Chief Strategy Officer at the TTC) stating that the 25 KM/H speed restriction at intersections/stations was implemented by Metrolinx. This is a bald faced lie. A rule like this would only originate in the bowels of TTC management, and this rule was not followed when Mosaic/Metrolinx were testing the line.
Also Derek Toigo saying "its not that easy" to remove the overcautious speed restrictions on Line 6.
I remember when TTC wanted to implement driving performance measurement technology with VISION on their busses that would penalize drivers for "speeding," brushing up against curbs, turning, smooth breaking, etc. The Union fought hard against that.
If it wasn't for them we'd probably have ridiculously slow driving busses for "safety" today as well.
Chow and the board haven't been questioning staff that blatantly lie and consistently present a defeatist attitude to commissioners during board meetings either. This is on them for not having a handle on their divisions.
I.e Josh Colle (Chief Strategy Officer at the TTC) stating that the 25 KM/H speed restriction at intersections/stations was implemented by Metrolinx. This is a bald faced lie. A rule like this would only originate in the bowels of TTC management, and this rule was not followed when Mosaic/Metrolinx were testing the line.
Also Derek Toigo saying "its not that easy" to remove the overcautious speed restrictions on Line 6.
I remember when TTC wanted to implement driving performance measurement technology with VISION on their busses that would penalize drivers for "speeding," brushing up against curbs, turning, smooth breaking, etc. The Union fought hard against that.
If it wasn't for them we'd probably have ridiculously slow driving busses for "safety" today as well.
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TwoWheelPoli
Active Member
The TTC already got a new CEO - Mandeep Lali - not that long ago and he so far has been a huge improvement over his predecessor. Then again, Rick Leary's tenure was probably the worst in the history of the TTC.
eglinton1661
Active Member
What do you think has improved under Lali? Genuinely asking.