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Nothing in that obelisk telling people what kind of transit it's trying to identify. Is it a bus stop? A subway station? A prematurely closed SRT? Who knows!
I don't see that calling out the specific mode of transport is helpful.

What would be helpful is specifying what route it actually is. People who need a service will use it if it's a subway, tram, bus, rickshaw, or magnetically suspended monorail from Mars, but they need to know what route it is.
 
Nothing in that obelisk telling people what kind of transit it's trying to identify. Is it a bus stop? A subway station? A prematurely closed SRT? Who knows
Mystery-seeds for future archeologists that dig them up out of our dusty remains…?
 
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Mystery-seeds for future archeologists that dig up them up out of our dusty remains…?

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It's full of stars, and Presto machines!

I think I'm finally seeing Metrolinx's logic here.
 
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Not sure if it's been posted anywhere on here, but they've installed the obelisks similar to the ones at Laird Station at Kennedy. Link here, and photos attached below from Reddit.

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Honestly there's no way they can't just add a '5' in a circle to indicate Line 5. Maybe throw in a little tram icon or something to indicate it's a rapid transit/rail service. Assuming that top half is a digital display, of course.
 
Assuming that top half is a digital display, of course.
Not saying they shouldn’t have a 5 on the sign but it’s incredibly unlikely that’s a digital display. Modular displays are suited for information that change with time, ie. next departure time, weather. There’s no modular info worthwhile to put on a display of that size relative to observed distances.
 
Not sure if it's been posted anywhere on here, but they've installed the obelisks similar to the ones at Laird Station at Kennedy. Link here, and photos attached below from Reddit.

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I do think they could be bigger and more clear, but I like the obelisks. You can all start yelling at me if you want, but the modern version of London's roundel took decades to become a universally-used symbol for the underground, and later all London transit. Toronto (metrolinx) is implementing the T symbol system wide, for rail at least, so I think the argument that "nobody knows what the T means" won't be valid in 5 years
 
Oddly enough, the same could be said about the TTC's current stop design.

And yet, people have seemed to have figured out what it's for.

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Sure, people eventually figure it out but that's a pretty low bar for wayfinding.

I do think they could be bigger and more clear, but I like the obelisks. You can all start yelling at me if you want, but the modern version of London's roundel took decades to become a universally-used symbol for the underground, and later all London transit. Toronto (metrolinx) is implementing the T symbol system wide, for rail at least, so I think the argument that "nobody knows what the T means" won't be valid in 5 years
The problem is that the Metrolinx T is used for all modes - buses, GO trains, LRT, etc. It's a generic identifier for all transit. Not at all the way that London uses the roundel.
 
Sure, people eventually figure it out but that's a pretty low bar for wayfinding.


The problem is that the Metrolinx T is used for all modes - buses, GO trains, LRT, etc. It's a generic identifier for all transit. Not at all the way that London uses the roundel.
They should colour it, like the roundels in London. Red for subway, green for GO, etc. Problem solved (although they won't do that)
 
They should colour it, like the roundels in London. Red for subway, green for GO, etc. Problem solved (although they won't do that)
how about just get rid of it and forgetting about it from other wayfinding as it does absolutely nothing at all except have people wonder what the point of it is?
 
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Yes, the whole thing seems rather to be a solution in search of a problem.
That's exactly what I tried to argue with a YouTuber on twitter one time after they posted an interview with the "wayfinding expert" and rather than saying anything other than defending the idea they blocked me instead.
 

Metrolinx has started to do video tours of the stations and stops.
It looks soo much like a subway station. Which begs the question, why did we even bother building an LRT along Eglinton instead of a subway? Save money and/or time on construction? I highly doubt either of those were achieved.

Crazy question, but if ridership spikes, what's the likelihood we can upgrade the Crosstown LRT to a subway system?
 

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