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raptor said:
For the millionth time, Yonge and Cedarvale are VERY far behind.
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How the underpinning of Line 1 wasn’t completed in 2014 is something I’ll never understand.

Can anyone here speculate why they waited until 2019/2020 to complete the underpinning? I’m no civil engineer, but to me it seems that underpinning Line 1 would be one of the very first steps to enable a new station to be built around it. What have the workers been doing in those holes for the past five years?
 
TheTigerMaster said:
How the underpinning of Line 1 wasn’t completed in 2014 is something I’ll never understand.

Can anyone here speculate why they waited until 2019/2020 to complete the underpinning? I’m no civil engineer, but to me it seems that underpinning Line 1 would be one of the very first steps to enable a new station to be built around it. What have the workers been doing in those holes for the past five years?
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Pure speculation, but the detailed explanations of how it was to be done only surfaced a couple years ago. Perhaps it took that long just to get the engineering right. I seem to recall that the plan for the Line 1 platform shifts only solidified a couple of years back also. That slow pace may have been a good thing - measure twice, cut once applies. But surely they understood that it’s a very long lead item.

Someone needs to be pinning Verster and Mulroney down now about all this, so they are caught in the lie when the inevitable delay is announced. The delay itself doesn’t bother me, but the lack of transparency about it sure does. They must know.

- Paul
 
^ Also, didn't they wait to do the underpinning because they needed the space or spend the energy on the TBMs and getting them out of the hole there?
 
TheTigerMaster said:
How the underpinning of Line 1 wasn’t completed in 2014 is something I’ll never understand.

Can anyone here speculate why they waited until 2019/2020 to complete the underpinning? I’m no civil engineer, but to me it seems that underpinning Line 1 would be one of the very first steps to enable a new station to be built around it. What have the workers been doing in those holes for the past five years?
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crs1026 said:
Pure speculation, but the detailed explanations of how it was to be done only surfaced a couple years ago. Perhaps it took that long just to get the engineering right. I seem to recall that the plan for the Line 1 platform shifts only solidified a couple of years back also. That slow pace may have been a good thing - measure twice, cut once applies. But surely they understood that it’s a very long lead item.
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Hm, I also recall that a year or two ago a lot of the planned summer Line 1 shutdowns to accommodate ECLRT construction were suddenly canceled. I wonder if that was at all related to them deciding to push back the underpinning work.

crs1026 said:
Someone needs to be pinning Verster and Mulroney down now about all this, so they are caught in the lie when the inevitable delay is announced. The delay itself doesn’t bother me, but the lack of transparency about it sure does. They must know.
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I'm surprised they didn't announce that the Crosstown was delayed right as the new government took office. Would've been a great moment for the PC government to highlight that the Liberals were hiding the delays with the Crosstown. Now the PCs are just as complicit in the "coverup" as the Liberals
 
TheTigerMaster said:
Hm, I also recall that a year or two ago a lot of the planned summer Line 1 shutdowns to accommodate ECLRT construction were suddenly canceled. I wonder if that was at all related to them deciding to push back the underpinning work.



I'm surprised they didn't announce that the Crosstown was delayed right as the new government took office. Would've been a great moment for the PC government to highlight that the Liberals were hiding the delays with the Crosstown. Now the PCs are just as complicit in the "coverup" as the Liberals
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Not that it will stop Mulroney from blaming them entirely anyway. She'll probably blame Ontario Line delays on them somehow too.
 
^Not to mention the Eglinton West LRT too. Because somehow the Libs are fully complicit in that delay as well.
 
Amare said:
^Not to mention the Eglinton West LRT too. Because somehow the Libs are fully complicit in that delay as well.
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In case of Eglinton West LRT, the delay is actually 100% on the Libs. It wasn't even a separate project originally, just a proper section of Eglinton Crosstown, which got scaled back when McGuinty was the Liberal Premier.
 
^Meh I blame it more on Tory who put his hands up and offered to take Eglinton West off of Metrolinx's hands. Had he not done that, it still would have been on the province's books albeit just deferred indefinitely.
 
raptor said:
For the millionth time, Yonge and Cedarvale are VERY far behind.
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yeah yeah yeah, you see progress but dwell on the things that you don't see. Underpinning for Yonge started in the summer time and they said it'll take about 6months to complete. I expect another big update on those two sites coming soon.
 
Coolstar said:
Not to mention all other stations that isn't Mount Dennis, Keelesdale and Caledonia.
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Several stations other than those you mentioned will be at 90 percent complete by the end of next year like Kennedy and Science center. A lot of the mined stations will see significant completion
 
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