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Here, the 4.3FSI is a weighted average of higher FSI density along Yonge & Steeles VS lower closer to the established Single Residential House Neighbourhoods further away from Yonge & Steeles,..... but all this was first proposed under the previous Term.

Since then,.... CityPlanning and New Councillor has not been successful at holding Developers to the maximum allowable height and density of the relatively new Yonge Street North Secondary Plan,... especially along Mid-Block where the Yonge Street North Secondary Plan specify maximum allowable Height of 13-storey and 6.0FSI density,... and over time what's being granted inches upward,... setting new precedents,... including,...
- in October 2023 - at 6200 Yonge Developer Ferrow which includes Mayor John Tory's buddy Edward Rogers tried for 25-storey with 9.0FSI (City refused forcing Developer to appeal to OMB/OLT) but got 16-storey with 7.0FSI,... granted at the OMB/OLT!!!

But last August - when everyone was on Vacation,... a BS emergency North York Community Council meeting set up at the last minute for August 20, 2024 with only 2 agenda items,... look at Cllr Lily's body language,... she looks like a deer caught in the headlight!

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- Korak's 6125 Yonge Street: Yonge Street North Secondary Plan - now 16-storey with 8.5FSI (6125 Yonge),.... and this approval was at City-Level,.... without going to OMB/OLT!!
Link: urbantoronto.ca/forum/threads/toronto-6125-yonge-62-6m-17s-arkfield-dialog.33421/page-2#post-2124110
- Osmington's 6355 Yonge just got approved for 51-storey with 21.75FSI density,... at the City Level without going to OMB/OLT!
Link: urbantoronto.ca/forum/threads/toronto-6355-yonge-173-1m-51s-osmington-gerofsky-tact-architecture.34564/

Both of these Mid-Block proposals were approved at City Level,... without going to OMB/OLT,.... 6355 Yonge approved for 21.75FSI, on land where Yonge Street North Secondary Plan specify maximum allowable density of 6.0FSI,....

Since the original CenterPoint Mall redevelopment proposal at 4.3FSI,.... the flood gates have opened,...

I'm genuinely unsure what you're getting at here.

 

[raadthedeveloper]

The "Potential Bus Terminal" apart of the SASP agreement... Is this a confirmation of the subway extension or just a terminal for future LRT?

 

[TJ O'Pootertoot]

The "Potential Bus Terminal" apart of the SASP agreement... Is this a confirmation of the subway extension or just a terminal for future LRT?

A "Bus terminal" for a future LRT doesn't make much sense? And have we heard anything about either BRT or LRT on Steeles? Seems more likely it's a bus terminal related to the subway. The initial plans, back like 15 years ago, were for a huge (and expensive, I'm sure) underground bus terminal. So maybe now they're plopping it somewhere on the mall site? Makes sense, given all the land there. I don't think the Bay still needs any, for example.

 

[raadthedeveloper]

A "Bus terminal" for a future LRT doesn't make much sense? And have we heard anything about either BRT or LRT on Steeles? Seems more likely it's a bus terminal related to the subway. The initial plans, back like 15 years ago, were for a huge (and expensive, I'm sure) underground bus terminal. So maybe now they're plopping it somewhere on the mall site? Makes sense, given all the land there. I don't think the Bay still needs any, for example.

Makes sense. I'm confused about how south the bus terminal is on the site... Instead of being all the way in the north east corner, encouraging easy access to steeles and yonge. Maybe because they would have to introduce another stoplight to make left turns so close to the intersection. No idea though..

 

[Undead]

Spoke with a prominent Vaughan councillor today. She says the Steeles BRT is moving along, but not in a rush.

Also said there's an idea floating around to add elevated pedestrian crossings over Yonge and Steeles which would integrate with the subway station and planned development around the intersection.

 

[Edward Skira]

I hate that the Lariviere Rd extension does not continue to Steeles. It will eventually connect directly to Beecroft and making a direct connection to Steeles would make it much more useful for the distribution of traffic off of Yonge Street.

I asked the previous councillor about this. He wanted to make it harder for cars from Vaughan to get into the neighbourhood. Keep them on Yonge as much as possible.

 

[TJ O'Pootertoot]

I asked the previous councillor about this. He wanted to make it harder for cars from Vaughan to get into the neighbourhood. Keep them on Yonge as much as possible.

Cars from Vaughan, eh? Were they planning to check passports?
Do people living in Willowdale never drive into Thornhill and then, say, return home?

I understand concerns about traffic infiltration but funnelling more cars onto Yonge is not exactly forward thinking; especially if it's just "foreign cars."

Oh, well.
Given all the intersecting jurisdictions, if Yonge-Steeles is going to evolve into a real centre, it's going to take a lot broader thinking than this kind of silliness (talking about the councillor, to be clear, not you).

As for elevated pedestrian crossings...maybe that's a good idea? A bit hard to say without seeing all the development plans and subway plans for the 4 corners. The site plan for this development shows there isn't even a building right on the corner so a connection would have to either further west (to go north) or south (to go east) and we don't know what underground connections the subway is going to include. But I guess it's good to keep options open, think outside the box and whatnot.