sunnyraytoronto said:
Here, the 4.3FSI is a weighted average of higher FSI density along Yonge & Steeles VS lower closer to the established Single Residential House Neighbourhoods further away from Yonge & Steeles,..... but all this was first proposed under the previous Term.

Since then,.... CityPlanning and New Councillor has not been successful at holding Developers to the maximum allowable height and density of the relatively new Yonge Street North Secondary Plan,... especially along Mid-Block where the Yonge Street North Secondary Plan specify maximum allowable Height of 13-storey and 6.0FSI density,... and over time what's being granted inches upward,... setting new precedents,... including,...
- in October 2023 - at 6200 Yonge Developer Ferrow which includes Mayor John Tory's buddy Edward Rogers tried for 25-storey with 9.0FSI (City refused forcing Developer to appeal to OMB/OLT) but got 16-storey with 7.0FSI,... granted at the OMB/OLT!!!

But last August - when everyone was on Vacation,... a BS emergency North York Community Council meeting set up at the last minute for August 20, 2024 with only 2 agenda items,... look at Cllr Lily's body language,... she looks like a deer caught in the headlight!

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- Korak's 6125 Yonge Street: Yonge Street North Secondary Plan - now 16-storey with 8.5FSI (6125 Yonge),.... and this approval was at City-Level,.... without going to OMB/OLT!!
Link: urbantoronto.ca/forum/threads/toronto-6125-yonge-62-6m-17s-arkfield-dialog.33421/page-2#post-2124110
- Osmington's 6355 Yonge just got approved for 51-storey with 21.75FSI density,... at the City Level without going to OMB/OLT!
Link: urbantoronto.ca/forum/threads/toronto-6355-yonge-173-1m-51s-osmington-gerofsky-tact-architecture.34564/

Both of these Mid-Block proposals were approved at City Level,... without going to OMB/OLT,.... 6355 Yonge approved for 21.75FSI, on land where Yonge Street North Secondary Plan specify maximum allowable density of 6.0FSI,....

Since the original CenterPoint Mall redevelopment proposal at 4.3FSI,.... the flood gates have opened,...
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I'm genuinely unsure what you're getting at here.
 
The "Potential Bus Terminal" apart of the SASP agreement... Is this a confirmation of the subway extension or just a terminal for future LRT?
 
raadthedeveloper said:
The "Potential Bus Terminal" apart of the SASP agreement... Is this a confirmation of the subway extension or just a terminal for future LRT?
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A "Bus terminal" for a future LRT doesn't make much sense? And have we heard anything about either BRT or LRT on Steeles? Seems more likely it's a bus terminal related to the subway. The initial plans, back like 15 years ago, were for a huge (and expensive, I'm sure) underground bus terminal. So maybe now they're plopping it somewhere on the mall site? Makes sense, given all the land there. I don't think the Bay still needs any, for example.
 
TJ O'Pootertoot said:
A "Bus terminal" for a future LRT doesn't make much sense? And have we heard anything about either BRT or LRT on Steeles? Seems more likely it's a bus terminal related to the subway. The initial plans, back like 15 years ago, were for a huge (and expensive, I'm sure) underground bus terminal. So maybe now they're plopping it somewhere on the mall site? Makes sense, given all the land there. I don't think the Bay still needs any, for example.
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Makes sense. I'm confused about how south the bus terminal is on the site... Instead of being all the way in the north east corner, encouraging easy access to steeles and yonge. Maybe because they would have to introduce another stoplight to make left turns so close to the intersection. No idea though..
 
Undead said:
Spoke with a prominent Vaughan councillor today. She says the Steeles BRT is moving along, but not in a rush.

Also said there's an idea floating around to add elevated pedestrian crossings over Yonge and Steeles which would integrate with the subway station and planned development around the intersection.
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innsertnamehere said:
I hate that the Lariviere Rd extension does not continue to Steeles. It will eventually connect directly to Beecroft and making a direct connection to Steeles would make it much more useful for the distribution of traffic off of Yonge Street.
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I asked the previous councillor about this. He wanted to make it harder for cars from Vaughan to get into the neighbourhood. Keep them on Yonge as much as possible.
 
Edward Skira said:
I asked the previous councillor about this. He wanted to make it harder for cars from Vaughan to get into the neighbourhood. Keep them on Yonge as much as possible.
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Cars from Vaughan, eh? Were they planning to check passports?
Do people living in Willowdale never drive into Thornhill and then, say, return home?

I understand concerns about traffic infiltration but funnelling more cars onto Yonge is not exactly forward thinking; especially if it's just "foreign cars."

Oh, well.
Given all the intersecting jurisdictions, if Yonge-Steeles is going to evolve into a real centre, it's going to take a lot broader thinking than this kind of silliness (talking about the councillor, to be clear, not you).

As for elevated pedestrian crossings...maybe that's a good idea? A bit hard to say without seeing all the development plans and subway plans for the 4 corners. The site plan for this development shows there isn't even a building right on the corner so a connection would have to either further west (to go north) or south (to go east) and we don't know what underground connections the subway is going to include. But I guess it's good to keep options open, think outside the box and whatnot.
 
While we know Metrolinx is in process of Demolishing SouthEast corner of Yonge & Steeles (plaza & first 6 house lots south-side of Steeles & first 2 house lots on north-side of Nipigon) for Steeles Subway Station with Bus Terminal,.... across Yonge St, Morguard (owner of CenterPoint Mall) seems to be in the process of "Proposed demolition of an existing 2 storey department store building including foundations and footings - Hudson Bay"! CenterPoint Mall is like a "+" shape,... with Hudson Bay closest to Yonge St - but there's still a parking lot in between.

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Usually, Permission for Demolition are done via Demolition Permit - since demolishing entire building/house. But here, only Demolishing a 2-level department store, not entire mall - so it's done via Building Permits! (Mechanical & Plumbing are "Issuance Pending" status)

There's currently no Building Permit Application to start construction for any of the ReDevelopment Condos Towers to be built at CenterPoint Mall.
 
sunnyraytoronto said:
While we know Metrolinx is in process of Demolishing SouthEast corner of Yonge & Steeles (plaza & first 6 house lots south-side of Steeles & first 2 house lots on north-side of Nipigon) for Steeles Subway Station with Bus Terminal,.... across Yonge St, Morguard (owner of CenterPoint Mall) seems to be in the process of "Proposed demolition of an existing 2 storey department store building including foundations and footings - Hudson Bay"! CenterPoint Mall is like a "+" shape,... with Hudson Bay closest to Yonge St - but there's still a parking lot in between.

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Usually, Permission for Demolition are done via Demolition Permit - since demolishing entire building/house. But here, only Demolishing a 2-level department store, not entire mall - so it's done via Building Permits! (Mechanical & Plumbing are "Issuance Pending" status)

There's currently no Building Permit Application to start construction for any of the ReDevelopment Condos Towers to be built at CenterPoint Mall.
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Looks like they might be preparing for demolition of The Bay now.
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Also starting demolition of 7, 9, 11, and 13 Steeles Avenue East, and 8 and 10 Nipigon Avenue,....

Here at CenterPointMall,....
- While the HudsonBay location will eventually be the approximate location of the new underground TTC Bus Terminal for Steeles Subway Station,... first priority now is to clear way to make room for a detour route for Yonge St on CenterPoint Mall site,... as they Cut-&-Cover underground platform for Steeles Subway Station

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May 26, 2026: "NY33.27 - Metrolinx Yonge North Subway Extension - Long-Term Temporary Road Closures, Time Extension of the Temporary Delegation of Authority"
Summary:
- "This report provides an overview of Metrolinx’s planned construction activities for the Yonge North Subway Extension Steeles Station at the intersection of Yonge Street and Steeles Avenue. The report outlines the key construction stages, anticipated timelines, and associated long-term temporary lane closures, turning restrictions, pedestrian and cycling impacts, transit adjustments, and access considerations required to facilitate construction."
- "Construction of Steeles Station requires excavation of a large underground station box within the existing Yonge Street right-of-way. Due to the scale and location of the work, it is not feasible to maintain traffic operations within the existing roadway during key stages of construction. To maintain north-south connectivity, Yonge Street will be temporarily realigned onto a newly constructed diversion road west of its existing alignment. Following implementation of the diversion road, Yonge Street, between Steeles Avenue and Madawaska Avenue, will be fully closed to vehicular traffic during the main construction phase."
- "This report seeks City Council approval for the temporary full closure of Yonge Street, the temporary designation of the diversion road as a public highway and associated temporary traffic and pedestrian by-law amendments required to support construction of Steeles Station."
- "In addition, this report seeks to extend the delegated authority of the General Manager, Transportation Services, to implement long-term temporary road closures and associated traffic modifications to December 31, 2030, to allow flexibility to respond to refinements in construction staging and scheduling without the need for subsequent reports to Council."
- "Approval of the recommendations in this report will enable Metrolinx to proceed with critical construction activities while ensuring that impacts to the transportation network, local communities, and road users are effectively managed through coordinated traffic control, access management, and construction mitigation measures."

May 7, 2026: "Metrolinx Yonge North Subway Extension – Long Term Temporary Road Closures, Time Extension of the Temporary Delegation of Authority"
 
Edward Skira said:
I'm old enough to remember when The Bay addition was added sometime in the mid 1970's.
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I'm not that old, but my mom bought me the cassette of Van Halen's 1984 at a small music store there in the summer of the titular year, and a calculator at Bi-Way a few years later for high-school math (still have both). There was a good video game store, Video Games Plus, there about 25-30 years ago. Plus, Carlo's No Frills is excellent.
 
Strange Advance said:
I'm not that old, but my mom bought me the cassette of Van Halen's 1984 at a small music store there in the summer of the titular year, and a calculator at Bi-Way a few years later for high-school math (still have both). There was a good video game store, Video Games Plus, there about 25-30 years ago. Plus, Carlo's No Frills is excellent.
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I saw The Return Of the Jedi on the Saturday it opened at the Famous Players cinemas there. Of course, it was Towne and Country mall back then. (We jokingly pronounced it "towny and country")
 
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