[lenaitch]

It is not that we should shut them down or anything like that. It is more that if we want to put in tracks beside theirs, they should allow it without any concerns.. It is also that all of our mainlines should be 2 track;4if passenger service runs on them.

So if no passenger service - freight only - everything should be two tracks. Why do you think it is that the people who actually run the businesses feel that in the majority of their networks, single tracks is just fine.

 

[micheal_can]

So if no passenger service - freight only - everything should be two tracks. Why do you think it is that the people who actually run the businesses feel that in the majority of their networks, single tracks is just fine.

Not everything, but the main lines.So, is the Guelph subdivision a mainline? What about the Kingston Subdivision? To me, a mainline is easy to identify by the number of trains per day it carries.
I know it is about the maintenance cost and overall profits.They also need a ROI within 5 years or less.
This is what happens when the public entity has to deal with a private entity.

 

[lenaitch]

Not everything, but the main lines.So, is the Guelph subdivision a mainline? What about the Kingston Subdivision? To me, a mainline is easy to identify by the number of trains per day it carries.
I know it is about the maintenance cost and overall profits.They also need a ROI within 5 years or less.
This is what happens when the public entity has to deal with a private entity.

You dodged my question. This has nothing to do with a "public entity"; you declared that a mainline (however defined):

should be 2 track;4if passenger service runs on them.

Why do you think the state, or anyone else for that matter, should have a say in the operation of private companies. CPKC has actually single-tracked a couple of their subs to run the same, if not more, tonnage.

 

[micheal_can]

You dodged my question. This has nothing to do with a "public entity"; you declared that a mainline (however defined):

There are 2 parts to my statement. So, not dodging, but instead explaining how they both are connected.

Why do you think the state, or anyone else for that matter, should have a say in the operation of private companies. CPKC has actually single-tracked a couple of their subs to run the same, if not more, tonnage.

....and how is passenger service along it? Oh,wait, they refuse to have any additional service on it.

Having said that,I used 2 CN subdivisions purposely as they do have both passenger and fright on them and they cannot seem to keep passenger train on time when on their tracks.And some parts of the Kingston sub are 3 tracks, not 4.

Getting back to the HSR connection,freight should not be touching the HSR tracks unless they need to access a business on the other side of it.So, using the Guelph subdivision as an example, there would be 2 new dedicated tracks for HSR and freight does not use them.

 

[lenaitch]

There are 2 parts to my statement. So, not dodging, but instead explaining how they both are connected.


....and how is passenger service along it? Oh,wait, they refuse to have any additional service on it.

Having said that,I used 2 CN subdivisions purposely as they do have both passenger and fright on them and they cannot seem to keep passenger train on time when on their tracks.And some parts of the Kingston sub are 3 tracks, not 4.

Getting back to the HSR connection,freight should not be touching the HSR tracks unless they need to access a business on the other side of it.So, using the Guelph subdivision as an example, there would be 2 new dedicated tracks for HSR and freight does not use them.

Ok, but referring to one part of your two-part statement, why should mainline, freight only corridors be two tracks (that was your statement), and if it is or is not, why should anyone, beyond the company officials and shareholders, care? I believe this is revealed in you ongoing position that (a) all Canadian rail should be nationalized, and (b) passenger trains should go to and from everywhere there are tracks (and, is some cases, even where there used to be tracks, or possibly even where there never were tracks).

As for true HSR (like in the area of 180 km/h), I'm not sure anybody is realistically thinking of intermingling it with freight traffic.

 

[micheal_can]

Ok, but referring to one part of your two-part statement, why should mainline, freight only corridors be two tracks (that was your statement), and if it is or is not, why should anyone, beyond the company officials and shareholders, care? I believe this is revealed in you ongoing position that (a) all Canadian rail should be nationalized, and (b) passenger trains should go to and from everywhere there are tracks (and, is some cases, even where there used to be tracks, or possibly even where there never were tracks).

We are in the need for HSR for many reasons, one is how freight carriers slow down passenger service on their lines.

As for true HSR (like in the area of 180 km/h), I'm not sure anybody is realistically thinking of intermingling it with freight traffic.

I really hope that is the case.