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Airboy said:
We don't hear much here for hospitals but BC.... Richmond hospital will be awarded this afternoon.
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Along with a new St.Paul's replacement in DT + new ones spread throughout the province......FSJ included.
 
MacLac said:
As much I despise Smitty - they will announce a new Stollery in the new year - this isn't news and it will be at the U of A. So we will have the new Stollery worth - my guess - $2.5B + the new NAIT trades building will start in '25 - worth - my guess - $450M + student housing. So just out pure necessity - Smitty will give some bucks to YEG starting next year. I'm also surmising Ben Stelter's proton facility ($120M) will be built in the Stollery.
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Hey, it isn't news because it hasn't been announced. More than once in history someone has been certain a government would do something, but it hasn't happened. So I wouldn't count my chickens until it is and even then ...

What necessity? She won an election without a single seat in Edmonton. These things may happen because they are good ideas, but I wouldn't get ahead of myself just yet.
 
David A said:
For goodness sake the last major hospital built here was over 30 years ago. There will be an election in a few years so hopefully the SW hospital or something similar will be announced then or soon after that.
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It is absurd to think about considering how much the population of Edmonton has increased since that time.
 
Not in defence of this, but the medical world has changed with many services being provided in new or different ways.
 
Airboy said:
Brother is on the St Paul's Project. FN big. There were 22 new or expanded hospitals in BC
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I've worked on dozens of projects mostly with Interior Health but also Fraser Health and Island Health and they were all my favourite clients. They were more interested in the most qualified consultants and contractors rather than strictly the fee, they gave us almost all the information we needed to do our design, understood the risks of not being able to give us information, and gave us realistic timelines. The amount of investments they've put into upgrading, expanding, and replacing hospitals even under the old progressive conservatives I mean BC Liberals have been nothing short of astonishing.

Blizzard said:
Agreed. I was a frequent donor until they chose to move all the way down there. I've made sure to communicate that to any real person I can every time I'm contacted about it. No consideration for anyone on the northside at all. I have O- blood but I guess because it comes from the northside they don't want my tainted donation.
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Same. I sent them a message.
 
I think the last real hospitals finished were the Cancer Clinic in Calgary and maybe High Prairies hospital. I don't recall any others since Calgary Campus. Been la few upgrades and renos. The Emerg at Miz. Rockie got a surgical addition. Ft Mack had the envelope upgrade, The Emergence Ambulatory care were done long before the fire. Lethbridge had some upgrades as well. .
 
Airboy said:
I think the last real hospitals finished were the Cancer Clinic in Calgary and maybe High Prairies hospital. I don't recall any others since Calgary Campus. Been lots of upgrades.
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Yes, I see Calgary mentioned a couple of times. Also Fort Saskatchewan and Grande Prairie got newer facilities in the recent past, both also growing communities I believe.
 
David A said:
Yes, I see Calgary mentioned a couple of times. Also Fort Saskatchewan and Grande Prairie got newer facilities in the recent past, both also growing communities I believe.
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Ft Sask was before Calgary South as for GP. That was built but not fitted out then rebuilt and still not fully built out. But Strathcona health centre will get some acute patient spaces next.
 
Airboy said:
Ft Sask was before Calgary South as for GP. That was built but not fitted out then rebuilt and still not fully built out. But Strathcona health centre will get some acute patient spaces next.
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Back when the Fort's hospital was still brand new, I talked about this with our MLA at the time, Jacquie Fenskie. I was just a kid, but being the amazing MLA and human being that she is, she took a lot of time over the years to talk with me, encourage my interest in politics, etc. But that's besides the point.

Jacquie said that the hospital took a  lot of lobbying with the Health Minister(s) over the years, and they finally managed to swing it by Treasury Board with a little trick they found: Despite being a massive upgrade from the old health centre, they convinced TB to classify the new hospital as a replacement, rather than just a new hospital. This gave it a different consideration in the budget, and is partly why the Fort got a new hospital before Sherwood Park got one at all—unlike the Fort, Sherwood Park didn't even have a health centre to start with, so there was nothing to replace.
 
Yah I learned a long time ago about how you label something to obtain Government funding. And that is for all levels of Government. I wrote a few assessment reports in small communities that helped get funding for new sports facilities. Health care facilities are now tougher. even basic maintenance and upgrades are getting tougher to fund.
 
CplKlinger said:
Back when the Fort's hospital was still brand new, I talked about this with our MLA at the time, Jacquie Fenskie. I was just a kid, but being the amazing MLA and human being that she is, she took a lot of time over the years to talk with me, encourage my interest in politics, etc. But that's besides the point.

Jacquie said that the hospital took a  lot of lobbying with the Health Minister(s) over the years, and they finally managed to swing it by Treasury Board with a little trick they found: Despite being a massive upgrade from the old health centre, they convinced TB to classify the new hospital as a replacement, rather than just a new hospital. This gave it a different consideration in the budget, and is partly why the Fort got a new hospital before Sherwood Park got one at all—unlike the Fort, Sherwood Park didn't even have a health centre to start with, so there was nothing to replace.
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Interesting. Here in Edmonton I feel the idea has been partly to try replace older facilities in older areas with newer ones in newer, growing parts of the city which makes some sense. But that has been framed as just being a new hospital.

So perhaps we need to reframe this some to get it back to what it really is. After all Grey Nuns in Millwoods was also a replacement for the old Edmonton General Hospital.
 
David A said:
Interesting. Here in Edmonton I feel the idea has been partly to try replace older facilities in older areas with newer ones in newer, growing parts of the city which makes some sense. But that has been framed as just being a new hospital.

So perhaps we need to reframe this some to get it back to what it really is. After all Grey Nuns in Millwoods was also a replacement for the old Edmonton General Hospital.
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Are you sure it wasn’t the Misericordia that replaced the general?
 
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