Monarch Butterfly
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The city should be starting the process of adding "pedestrian refuge islands" at most intersections within the city. Give it a couple of decades.
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Bordercollie
Senior Member
The roads are not as wide as they are in LA or Markham.
Monarch Butterfly
Superstar
Even single lane or narrow roads in Europe have pedestrian refuge islands. So can Toronto.
The problem is the suburban arterial roads have w-i-d-e traffic lanes as if they were expressways. The traffic lanes should be narrowed to slow the motor vehicles for the safety of pedestrians.
Jonathan's Junction
New Member
They actually have been getting increasingly narrower in Toronto! I've noticed a few restriping projects that have added edge lines/hashes/wider medians to narrow the lanes to their minimums- 3m for inside lanes and 3.3m for curb lanes.
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Monarch Butterfly
Superstar
In doing so they can create cycling lanes. Better if they were dual-directional cycling lanes which can be used by emergency vehicles, such as ambulances and fire trucks.
Westey
Active Member
or handed back to cars in the winter when bicycle traffic virtually disappears.
Although I suppose a 1.5m bicycle lane makes a good spot for snow storage in winter when bicycle traffic virtually disappears.
Bojaxs
Senior Member
I didn't realise how wide Ontario roads were until I went to Manchester.
I crossed here multiple times to get to the nearby Tescos from my hotel. I remember how safe I felt hopping from one island to the next compared to having 30 seconds to walk the width of 6 - 8 lanes of traffic. I also appreciate how having islands meant you only have to look in one direction while crossing the street.
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