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I would counter that it's not different. I know of people who came in from Belleville, Stoney Creek, Barrie and Woodstock for lowly regularly season games.

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Fair enough. Are they coming to the stadium though with a ticket in hand or to watch the game at a restaurant in the city?

While I know people that travel from all over to attend the actual games (I have family in Quebec, Alberta etc that come in for Jays games) not once has someone travelled to Toronto to watch the game on a TV outside the stadium at a restaurant.

Same with how they don't have "Jurassic Park" or "Maple Leaf Square" for regular Raps or Leaf games.
 
They've decided to split the final Gardiner work over 2 weekends to accommodate World Series traffic.


The City of Toronto and Government of Ontario are moving forward with plans to reopen the Gardiner Expressway between Dufferin Street and Strachan Avenue – 18 months ahead of the original construction schedule.

A full closure of the Gardiner Expressway from Spadina Avenue to Highway 427 is required to do maintenance and final preparatory work to enable the safe reopening of all six lanes. Coordinated with the Blue Jays World Series schedule, this closure will happen over two weekends, to balance the need to support the Toronto Blue Jays and ensure safe movement in and around the downtown core.

Weekend closure details​

  • The night of Saturday, October 25, following the end of Game 2 of the Toronto Blue Jays World Series, the Gardiner Expressway will be closed from Spadina Avenue to Highway 427. Weather depending, three westbound lanes and two eastbound lanes will reopen by approximately 7 a.m. on Monday, October 27, in time for the morning rush hour.
  • The second closure is tentatively scheduled for the night of Saturday, November 1, dependent on the Blue Jays’ schedule. The Gardiner Expressway will be closed from Spadina Avenue to Highway 427, and all six lanes will reopen by approximately 7 a.m. on Monday, November 3, in time for the morning rush hour.

Closure activities​

As the City prepares to reopen the Gardiner between Dufferin and Strachan, crews will also carry out essential maintenance to extend the life of the expressway. As part of the maintenance work, crews will work around the clock to resurface lanes, make final repairs to the infrastructure and improve safety features.

A traffic management plan will be in place to help minimize congestion and manage traffic on alternate routes. Drivers are encouraged to plan their routes in advance, allow for extra travel time and consider using public transit to avoid delays.

The City thanks residents and road users for their patience as this critical work is completed to safely reopen this key section of the Gardiner Expressway well ahead of schedule.
 
The relief will be appreciated on both Monday mornings depending on which way people are travelling. Either way, hopefully we learn from it and dump some resources into wrapping up the other projects along the QEW/Gardiner stretch quicker.

Having four major projects between Oakville and the DVP has been tough so the fact most are wrapping up in the next year will be nice. At least for the month or so until the next few start lol.
 
When is the Grand Magazine to York section scheduled to begin? Surely that will be way more disruptive than now, being 2km as opposed to 700m, and including on and off ramps.
York to Jarvis will also be a real mess and I think they still plan to remove the Bay eastbound on-ramp and shorten the Jarvis off one.
 
York to Jarvis will also be a real mess and I think they still plan to remove the Bay eastbound on-ramp and shorten the Jarvis off one.
There's no plans to rebuild that stretch anytime soon though as it's not in the scope of the total rehabilitation project, or did i miss something recently?
 
There's no plans to rebuild that stretch anytime soon though as it's not in the scope of the total rehabilitation project, or did i miss something recently?
I looked at the City's Gardiner page https://www.toronto.ca/services-pay.../gardiner-expressway-rehabilitation-strategy/ and it is very odd that they ignore the York to Jarvis section in it! However, that section looks in VERY poor condition to me and I think there are still plans to remove the Bay Street on-ramp and shorten the Jarvis Street exit to fit with the new extension of Harbour Street.

This appears to be included in the Lower Yonge Precinct plan

Redevelopment presents an opportunity to transform the Precinct into a unique destination supported by good urban design and infrastructure planning consistent with the Central Waterfront Secondary Plan and Official Plan objectives for the waterfront. hese objectives envision an area that is sensitive to its historical roots while creating future homes, workplaces, schools and community facilities for up to 13,000 residents and 15,000 employees (Attachment 2). Several residential and mixed-use developments have been recently completed and a number of properties are either under construction or are in the midst of the development approvals process. As the industrial waterfront of the past transitions to a mixed use residential and commercial neighborhood, a different mix of transportation infrastructure is needed with a greater emphasis on building complete streets to encourage walking, cycling, and transit use.

Approved by Council in 2015, the Lower Yonge Precinct Transportation Master Plan (TMP) was jointly carried out by Transportation Services, City Planning and Waterfront Toronto and identified key transportation improvements in transportation infrastructure needed to support redevelopment of the Lower Yonge Precinct while balancing local and regional transportation demands:

easterly extension of Harbour Street (from Yonge Street to Lower Jarvis Street),
realignment of the Yonge Street/Harbour Street intersection,
conversion of Harbour Street from one-way eastbound to two-way operations (from York Street to Yonge Street),
shortening of the Lower Jarvis Street off-ramp from eastbound Gardiner Expressway
removal of the Bay Street on-ramp,
reconstruction of Yonge Street (Queens Quay to Front Street) and lower Jarvis Street (Queens Quay to Lake Shore Boulevard East), 
construction of a new street, extending between Queens Quay East and Lake Shore Boulevard, east of Cooper Street, and
extension of Cooper Street north to connect with Church Street and The Esplanade

(FROM: https://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/mmis/2017/pw/bgrd/backgroundfile-104653.pdf )


As far as I know this remains the Plan but .....
 
The city websites are very short on timeline details for construction of the various segments. Can anyone point me to where I could find that info?
 
When is the Grand Magazine to York section scheduled to begin? Surely that will be way more disruptive than now, being 2km as opposed to 700m, and including on and off ramps.

The city websites are very short on timeline details for construction of the various segments. Can anyone point me to where I could find that info?
The city’s website used to have it but since the upload was announced it’s all disappeared- I think they are running way behind schedule (it’s the City, so no surprise) and don’t want to admit it.
 
The first link on the City’s Gardiner rehab page is a ~10 year old slide deck with a timeline suggesting all sections would be done by 2024.

However, as I’ve mentioned before in this thread, even with the speedy timeline above the York to Jarvis section was scheduled later for 2035.
I will be very surprised if the bents last another 10 years! The shortening of the Jarvis off ramp and removal of the Bay on-ramp need to happen before the final phase of Pinnacle can proceed as the new alignment of Harbour needs to have opened and the current leg of it removed.
 
With work to start on the Hybrid section in 2026/27 it will require taffic to use the Lake Shore and QQ that will push the QQE LRT work down the road until the Hybird section opens in 2030/21.

It will be a zoo one way or another for the Lake Shore going east and trying to get on the Don Roadway DVP ramp. Using QQ will only get drivers as far as Cherry St if it is open by the closing of the Gardiner,

Then there is the relocation of the current Lake Shore that has to be built.

I will be very surprised if the bents last another 10 years! The shortening of the Jarvis off ramp and removal of the Bay on-ramp need to happen before the final phase of Pinnacle can proceed as the new alignment of Harbour needs to have opened and the current leg of it removed

The bents are in real poor shape with the need for the Yonge Ramp now not later.

Even with the removal of the Jarvis Ramp, the new alignment of Harbour St will not do much for the area until it connects to Jarvis St and the completion of Sugar Wharf last phase let alone Loblaw's. Going one block east of Yonge in 2026/28 or ? isn't going do much for the Lake Shore.
 

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