Fred.S
Active Member
It likely will be, but does depend on some work at the approaches. Unfortunately the bridge over the QEW at Stavebank won't be open, otherwise Stavebank would be the best way to get up there from Lakeshore/Waterfront Trail.
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Metroscapes
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This looks amazing!
Sauga89
Active Member
The pedestrian crossing at the QEW will close a huge, impassable gap in the Nine Creeks Trail, which is also quite lovely (though there are still a few smaller gaps). You could take Ogden and Westfield up from the lake to the eastern end of the trail, and follow the trail all the way to Oakville. Alternatively, the Queensway trail will also get you to Stavebank from the north.
innsertnamehere
Superstar
I drove over the bridge today and can confirm archeological activities are still underway adjacent to the pedestrian bridge. There was a crew of 15-20 staffers undertaking archeological work this afternoon.
Hopefully they can wrap the work up quickly as it is causing major delays on completion of this project. The bridge has been ready for months for the lanes to shift back onto the original bridge.
Hopefully they can wrap the work up quickly as it is causing major delays on completion of this project. The bridge has been ready for months for the lanes to shift back onto the original bridge.
turbanplanner
Senior Member
Has anything of actual value ever been found? not some arrowheads or other junk
Metroscapes
Active Member
When settlers take all your land, subject your culture to genocide and don't uphold the treaties you signed with them, what is the value of these finds? Along a river that your nation is named after?
It sucks when these finds upend construction schedules and inflate costs, but doesn't mean it's worthless, nor that how much "we" value it matters.
turbanplanner
Senior Member
If we have 10 million of something it's objectively less valuable than something more rare
just east of the creek
Senior Member
Ten million of what...?
Sauga89
Active Member
I agree the current dig should go ahead and I did a little research.
It's not surprising really that this dig is being done. Indigenous peoples used the Credit River to travel between the lake and areas farther north for thousands of years. This particular site was uncovered in the 1930s (perhaps when the original bridge was built?). Excavations were performed by the Royal Ontario Museum, and as many as 4 bodies were reportedly discovered, along with glass beadsand arrowheads (EDIT: Stone tools have been found at nearby sites, but no arrowheads are actually mentioned at this site). While the site apparently showed signs of continuous or repeated habitation, most of the artifacts found dated back to the Middle Woodland period (400 B.C. to 600 A.D.) It was named the Hogsback site and given the archeological designation (AjGv-3).
Source: pg. 45 of the June 2020 environmental report and pages 17 and 67 of the city of Mississauga's 2022 cultural heritage report.
As there was a known archeological site in the area, an archeological assessment was done as part of the environmental approval process for the new bridge. The archeological assessment led to a dig being conducted on the north side of the highway, east of the river, which took 2 years from 2016 to 2017.
These articles describe the significance of the 2017 dig.
https://www.toronto.com/news/counci...cle_ac9e525f-51f4-5203-92f9-35456ad60efa.html
https://asiheritage.ca/publication/...edit-river-during-the-middle-woodland-period/
Further explorations in 2019 assessed other adjacent areas which might be impacted by bridge construction, but a test pit failed to turn up anything. Also, as part of the bridge construction, part of the riverbed was exposed and excavated in June 2020. Despite the test pit not revealing anything, the environmental approval process mandated a dig be conducted should anything turn up during construction.
It's not surprising really that this dig is being done. Indigenous peoples used the Credit River to travel between the lake and areas farther north for thousands of years. This particular site was uncovered in the 1930s (perhaps when the original bridge was built?). Excavations were performed by the Royal Ontario Museum, and as many as 4 bodies were reportedly discovered, along with glass beads
Source: pg. 45 of the June 2020 environmental report and pages 17 and 67 of the city of Mississauga's 2022 cultural heritage report.
As there was a known archeological site in the area, an archeological assessment was done as part of the environmental approval process for the new bridge. The archeological assessment led to a dig being conducted on the north side of the highway, east of the river, which took 2 years from 2016 to 2017.
These articles describe the significance of the 2017 dig.
https://www.toronto.com/news/counci...cle_ac9e525f-51f4-5203-92f9-35456ad60efa.html
https://asiheritage.ca/publication/...edit-river-during-the-middle-woodland-period/
Further explorations in 2019 assessed other adjacent areas which might be impacted by bridge construction, but a test pit failed to turn up anything. Also, as part of the bridge construction, part of the riverbed was exposed and excavated in June 2020. Despite the test pit not revealing anything, the environmental approval process mandated a dig be conducted should anything turn up during construction.
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turbanplanner
Senior Member
Honestly it's just my opinion but I wouldn't care if Atlantis was found in the site.
In my book, absolutely nothing is worth 2 years of delaying hundreds of thousands of people hours each week in their commutes.
Metroscapes
Active Member
And my only point is our opinions don't matter, unless one of the Mississaugas is a UT'er in question.
turbanplanner
Senior Member
Unless they’re willing to pitch in, I feel everyone has a say as it’s coming out of public funds
drum118
Superstar
Metroscapes
Active Member
I'd invite you to further discussion on a different thread I started about our settler history, but that turned into a complete sh*tshow.
I'll leave it at this: there's lots of room for more education on what indigenous peoples went through and continue to go through today. Part VI of the Ontario Heritage Act applies to this project, even if it only scratches the surface of reconciling our history with 'the people who lived where there are mouths of many rivers'.
junctionist
Senior Member
Archeological remains dating back to 400 BC to 600 AD? That’s incredible. But why not just wave our hands dismissively and say that Canada has no history?