[UtakataNoAnnex]

It would have been great to be buying Canadian and supporting local all along. The increased patriotism is fine, but the judgment over getting a coffee at Starbucks vs Tim Hortons annoys me. If you point out that Tim’s isn’t Canadian owned, you are reminded that they employ thousands of Canadians. Well, so does Starbucks. And on it goes. It’s complicated, and ultimately people will do what works best for them. For many, it comes down to what they can afford, and they shouldn’t be made to feel like bad Canadians for it.

Hurrah for the orange one for uniting us somewhat, but thumbs down to the accompanying judgment.

I think we should focus on boycotting products that we knowingly come from the US rather then services such as store chains or shows we like when we can. Not everything from America is awful, just the folks who running it and their supporters we should try avoid at all costs. If that makes sense…

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

"Canada Dry" was made in Canada, at first. It shipped eventually to New York State, then the rest of the USA. Soon, it built bottling plants in the USA. Dr Pepper bought Canada Dry in 1982. In 1984, Dr Pepper was acquired by Forstmann Little & Company, and Canada Dry was sold to R. J. Reynolds' Del Monte Foods unit to pay off acquisition debt. RJR Nabisco sold its soft drink business to Cadbury Schweppes in 1986. Today, Canada Dry is owned by Keurig Dr Pepper, which was spun off from Cadbury Schweppes in 2008.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_Dry#History

 

[evandyk]

If you start to poke around, you'll notice that a ton of stuff that is very "Canadian" is owned mostly by US but also other countries' companies. Not just Tim Hortons, but things like Voortman's cookie factory in Burlington. That's just the one example that came to mind because one of the photos circulating Twitter with "Made in Canada" labels on grocery products was Voortmans. And yes, like Bud Light and Coors, they're 100% made in Canada, create good Canadian jobs, but they are American-owned.

 

[christiesplits]

Great analysis of the Trump trade war by Jeet Heer in The Nation:

Moreover, the overall thrust of Trump’s trade war has been in the Western Hemisphere, with grandiose proclamations of a new “manifest destiny” (proposals to annex Canada as the 51st state and take over imperial control of Greenland from Denmark). Finally, in each of these hemispheric trade wars, Trump was quick to claim victory after a purely symbolic triumph where his supposed antagonist merely made face-saving concessions designed to give Trump good headlines.

In other words, Trump is just fighting fake matches on a wrestling stage that allows him to beat his chest as well as enact the essential surprise turn where he shifts from friend to foe to friend again. This may be great kayfabe—but it has little to do with economic or geopolitical reality.

Trump’s Phony Trade Wars Are Evidence of American Imperial Decline

President’s bullying of allies yields symbolic results—but betrays substantive weakness.

www.thenation.com

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

Many. companies in Canada are American owned. Trump is hurting American-owned companies with his tariffs.

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

Is this for real?

Did President Trump Ban the Word "Felon" From the White House?​

That free speech is gonna cost ya!

Source: https://www.distractify.com/p/did-trump-ban-the-word-felon

When President Donald Trump gets his feelings hurt, someone usually has to pay for it. Anyone who was even remotely involved in the Jan. 6 investigations has been on the receiving end of President Trump's wrath. When a bishop from the Washington National Cathedral asked the president to have mercy on immigrants and members of the trans community, he lashed out in a post to Truth Social. "She was nasty in tone, and not compelling or smart," he wrote while demanding she apologize.

Some of his retaliatory actions will only serve to hurt the American public, while others are actually at times rather amusing. For example, he signed an executive order putting an end to the use of paper straws. We will no longer suffer at the hands, or should we say mouths, of wet mush. Speaking of hilarious, there is a chance he banned the use of the word "felon" in the White House. Gosh, why would someone say "felon" in the White House? Let's get into it.

 

[evandyk]

"elon" = top notch
"felon" = no way

 

[PinkLucy]

Is this for real?

Did President Trump Ban the Word "Felon" From the White House?​

That free speech is gonna cost ya!

Source: https://www.distractify.com/p/did-trump-ban-the-word-felon

From the link you shared, this has not been verified.

 

[lenaitch]

Oh for sure, but my point was that if CN and Air Canada were still under crown ownership, we could at least subsidize transportation costs for trade cross-country. I mean, we could subsidize non-crown transportation costs, too. But as with the headaches seen in the CP/Via deal, it's likely not to our advantage in any way.

I guess I'm missing the point about how subsidizing domestic trade would improve things over simply removing any artificial barriers. Subsidies aren't invisible and if we hope to have trade agreements with other nations, they are going to want some kind of offset so that their position in relation to domestic companies is leveled.

Besides, subsidizing only some of the transportation carriers seems highly unfair. If CN were still Crown-owned, they could subsidize goods going to or from Edmonton but not Calgary?

 

[lenaitch]

From the link you shared, this has not been verified.

It does seem unrealistic, but observers could be excused for their confusion since even some of the legitimate and verifiable stuff coming out of the White is equally bizarre. Associated Press has been barred from Executive events (but haven't had their accreditation pulled - yet) for having the audacity to continue to use the term Gulf of Mexico.

 

[PinkLucy]

It does seem unrealistic, but observers could be excused for their confusion since even some of the legitimate and verifiable stuff coming out of the White is equally bizarre. Associated Press has been barred from Executive events (but haven't had their accreditation pulled - yet) for having the audacity to continue to use the term Gulf of Mexico.

I definitely believe it could happen, just saying that it hasn't been verified

 

[lenaitch]

I definitely believe it could happen, just saying that it hasn't been verified

I'm having trouble imagining a context that would be behind this. It would take a pretty large pair to use 'felon' as a nickname when referring to the president ('yes, Mr. Smith, the felon will see you now') ; although there goes my suggestion for his Secret Service callsign.

Maybe the concerns are along the lines of Beetlejuice or Voldemort.

 

[picard102]

I guess I'm missing the point about how subsidizing domestic trade would improve things over simply removing any artificial barriers

The number one barrier is transportation. Not regulations.

 

[PinkLucy]

I'm having trouble imagining a context that would be behind this. It would take a pretty large pair to use 'felon' as a nickname when referring to the president ('yes, Mr. Smith, the felon will see you now') ; although there goes my suggestion for his Secret Service callsign.

Maybe the concerns are along the lines of Beetlejuice or Voldemort.

It's definitely used all over social media (Felon 47), but yes, I doubt people at The White House are audibly referring to POTUS as FOTUS. Somehow I think "President Musk" probably bugs him more.

 

[Admiral Beez]

Many. companies in Canada are American owned. Trump is hurting American-owned companies with his tariffs.

The supposed trade imbalance would vanish if we included all the products/services made/delivered in Canada by US owned subsidiaries, where all the revenue and profits are sent to the US. Capital flows, not just goods should be counted.