[Richard White]

Hey so this is really bad

https://twitter.com/x/status/1982858375378477330

Constitutionally speaking he can't go over 5 years without an election.

The way I read this is that they are going back to how it was before fixed elections.

 

[AlvinofDiaspar]

This bit is the worst:

Eliminate pre-writ spending limits for political parties and third parties.

Sounds like they want to be more like the Americans, not less.

AoD

 

[Mihairokov]

This bit is the worst:

Eliminate pre-writ spending limits for political parties and third parties.

Sounds like they want to be more like the Americans, not less.

AoD

It's mostly the fact that they're covering the pre-writ spending policy with the fixed-election date policy, which they know will get more coverage (as this thread shows).

 

[AlvinofDiaspar]

It's mostly the fact that they're covering the pre-writ spending policy with the fixed-election date policy, which they know will get more coverage (as this thread shows).

If only the rest of their government has the competence of their Comms folks.

AoD

 

[picard102]

First attacking renters, now this?

 

[Cambry Ardship]

This bit is the worst:

Eliminate pre-writ spending limits for political parties and third parties.

Sounds like they want to be more like the Americans, not less.

AoD

I thought that the pre-writ spending limit was found to be unconstitutional at the SCC, violating Section 3? So wouldn't this be aligning the law with the recent court decision? That's a good thing, no?

 

[AlvinofDiaspar]

I thought that the pre-writ spending limit was found to be unconstitutional at the SCC, violating Section 3? So wouldn't this be aligning the law with the recent court decision? That's a good thing, no?

The SCC only struck down the legislation that limited spending for third party - because of the lack of equivalent limits on political parties. Now it became a free for all.

SCC Strikes Down Ontario’s Pre-Election Third-Party Political Advertising Spending Limits | Blakes

The Supreme Court of Canada struck down Ontario’s limits on pre-election third-party political advertising spending.

www.blakes.com

The good thing is reducing the influence of money on the electoral system - not removing all brakes - because they were intentionally disproportionate in the first place.

AoD

 

[AlvinofDiaspar]

Speaking of ads though:

Ontario Reagan commercial produced by firm with ties to Doug Ford’s PC party | Globalnews.ca

On Monday, Ford called the commercial 'the most successful ad in the history of North America' owing to the intense conversation and reaction triggered by the television spot.

globalnews.ca

AoD

 

[afransen]

Constitutionally speaking he can't go over 5 years without an election.

The way I read this is that they are going back to how it was before fixed elections.

Honestly, the fixed election date law was always a questionable idea, not terribly compatible with parliamentary democracy. Governments could always go early.

 

[picard102]

Honestly, the fixed election date law was always a questionable idea, not terribly compatible with parliamentary democracy. Governments could always go early.

They still could, and did. The fixed date just gets moved to the first Thursday in June 4 years from then.

 

[UtakataNoAnnex]

It means Ford wants to extend his government's stay if they become unpopular. Not sure how else to read that...

 

[Richard White]

It means Ford wants to extend his government's stay if they become unpopular. Not sure how else to read that...

He can't extend it past 5 years as per section 4 of the 1982 Constitution Act and Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

He can try and use the notwithstanding clause but to do so in order delays elections is risky.

Unless we have a repeat of the War of 1812 there is no way the legislature could pass 5 years without an election.

Using the Notwithstanding Clause to extend delay elections would cause significant backlash and possibly even his resignation.

If Ford did try to pull that stunt, I can see the Lt Governor General using their reserve powers.

 

[AlvinofDiaspar]

He can't extend it past 5 years as per section 4 of the 1982 Constitution Act and Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

He can try and use the notwithstanding clause but to do so in order delays elections is risky.

Unless we have a repeat of the War of 1812 there is no way the legislature could pass 5 years without an election.

Using the Notwithstanding Clause to extend delay elections would cause significant backlash and possibly even his resignation.

If Ford did try to pull that stunt, I can see the Lt Governor General using their reserve powers.

The Notwithstanding Clause cannot be applied to democratic rights and rules around the maximum length of a government (s. 3 & 4). The clause can only be used on s. 2, 7-15.

AoD

 

[Mihairokov]

Speaking of ads though:

Ontario Reagan commercial produced by firm with ties to Doug Ford’s PC party | Globalnews.ca

On Monday, Ford called the commercial 'the most successful ad in the history of North America' owing to the intense conversation and reaction triggered by the television spot.

globalnews.ca

AoD

This is normal for most political parties.

 

[lenaitch]

The Notwithstanding Clause cannot be applied to democratic rights and rules around the maximum length of a government (s. 3 & 4). The clause can only be used on s. 2, 7-15.

AoD

This. And if he tried to extend past the Section 4 limit of five years, that would be where the reserve power of the Crown would come in since the government would no longer be legitimate. It would be a Constitutional crisis for sure.

Of course, he could always try to pull a Trump and try make creative use of the concepts of 'war', 'invasion' or 'insurrection' as allowed in 4(2).