[Mihairokov]

They released her because she cut a deal with the Americans. Not sure why we're excusing China here for illegally detaining citizens in retaliation for a perfectly legal extradition request.

It's mostly just to reiterate that China isn't some rogue state detaining Canadians because they felt to that day - they did so because the Americans wanted Meng extradited which we complied with. Their beef, whatever size it may or may not be, is with the US, not us.

 

[narduch]

Let's not forget that the American's reasons for wanting Meng were totally bogus too

 

[picard102]

Let's not forget that the American's reasons for wanting Meng were totally bogus too

She admitted to fraud to circumvent sanctions.

 

[narduch]

She admitted to fraud to circumvent sanctions.

Ya. So they would finally let her go. Basically to save face.

They dropped all the charges

 

[UtakataNoAnnex]

If you actually really cared about election interference you would be more upset about the USA or even Israel.

It's funny how we talk about rogue states when it is obvious some get far more scrutiny than others. Because at the end of the day, it's all about who we want to trade with and whose feathers we don't want to ruffle for political reasons. It's never really about fairness, humanity and a just society, IMO. /sigh

 

[lenaitch]

Just as a note, the two Michaels were only taken in after we arrested and extradited Meng Wanzhou at the behest of the Americans, and they were subsequently released once Meng was released on our end. It went so well for us that Spavor sued the feds and settled for $7M over the whole affair.

She wasn't extradited anywhere. She was held, in Canada, on a provisional warrant under the Extradition Act pursuant to a treaty between Canada and US. He time in custody was consumed with her opposing the grounds for the warrant.

If we are going to have treaties with other countries, we'd best honour their terms.

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

Prime Minister Carney to strengthen Canada’s trade and security partnerships in Poland, Germany, and Latvia​

From https://www.pm.gc.ca/en/news/news-releases/2025/08/23/prime-minister-carney-strengthen-canadas-trade-and-security

Today (Saturday, August 23, 2025), the Prime Minister, Mark Carney, announced that he will travel to Poland, Germany, and Latvia, from August 25 to 27, 2025. He will be focused on strengthening relationships with European allies and advancing co-operation in key areas, including trade, energy, critical minerals, and collective defence.

In Warsaw, Prime Minister Carney will meet with Polish counterparts to advance the strategic partnership between Canada and Poland and deepen collaboration on commerce, energy, and defence. To that end, the Prime Minister will meet with business leaders to promote new industrial partnerships in key sectors, including energy, defence, and aerospace. Prime Minister Carney will also underscore Canada’s continued support for lasting peace in Ukraine and Europe, emphasizing that no decisions about Ukraine should be taken without Ukraine and no decisions about Europe be taken without Europe.

In Berlin, the Prime Minister will meet with the Chancellor of Germany, Friedrich Merz, to promote stronger economic co-operation and address pressing global security challenges. Prime Minister Carney will also meet with senior corporate leaders to encourage new investment opportunities and secure resilient supply chains in energy and natural resources – especially critical minerals.

The Prime Minister will then travel to Riga, where he will meet with Latvian leaders to strengthen the bilateral relationship between Latvia and Canada, and to enhance trade, including in the defence sector. The Prime Minister will also visit Canadian Armed Forces members deployed as part of Operation REASSURANCE, Canada’s largest active overseas military mission.

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Canada reinforces its support for a just and lasting peace in Ukraine​

From https://www.pm.gc.ca/en/news/news-releases/2025/08/24/canada-reinforces-its-support-just-and-lasting-peace

The international rules-based order, established after the Second World War, is under increasing pressure. At this hinge moment, Ukraine is, once again, at the frontline of the struggle between democracy and authoritarianism.

That is why today (Sunday, August 24, 2025), the Prime Minister, Mark Carney, visited Kyiv on the 34th anniversary of Ukraine’s independence. Canada was the first Western country to recognize Ukraine as an independent and sovereign nation. Decades later, Canada remains steadfast in our support for Ukraine.

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Looks like Prime Minister Carney is looking for other trading partners and deals than the USA.

 

[thettctransitfanatic]

Looks like Prime Minister Carney is looking for other trading partners and deals than the USA.​

Good, I know recently the PM lifted the CUSMA tariffs and that proved controversial, but at the end of the day, a deal with them will not be easy, and other partners are important. As they can be much more realible.

 

[EBT]

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Looks like Prime Minister Carney is looking for other trading partners and deals than the USA.

If he is looking for more trading partners, I don't what he is doing in Kiev giving Zelensky $500 million to buy American weapons. Zelensky posted this to his X account:

"I am grateful for Canada’s readiness to join the PURL program, which allows for increased support for Ukraine through U.S. weapons procurement. This means an additional 500 million dollars – a very important contribution."

https://twitter.com/x/status/1959606165542699483

Donald Trump has been making good on his vow to destroy the Canadian economy. Over the last 7 months he has taken a wrecking ball to our industries. In Ontario alone we have lost 28,000 manufacturing jobs and in response Carney shows up in Kiev with $500 million so that Zelensky can buy American-made weapons! Let that sink in. Does any of this make any sense?

This $500 million in Canadian tax dollars is in an addition to the $22 billion Canada has already forked over to Zelensky over the last 3 years. Imagine what could have been done in Canada with $22 billion. You could build another pipeline to the west coast to reduce are alliance on the American market. You could build a large nuclear power plant. For $22 billion you could build around 75K two-bedroom apartment units in Canada that would put a big dint in our housing crisis, but our politicians had Ukraine as a priority and there is never any public debate about this in Canada.

 

[zang]

This $500 million in Canadian tax dollars is in an addition to the $22 billion Canada has already forked over to Zelensky over the last 3 years. Imagine what could have been done in Canada with $22 billion. You could build another pipeline to the west coast to reduce are alliance on the American market. You could build a large nuclear power plant. For $22 billion you could build around 75K two-bedroom apartment units in Canada that would put a big dint in our housing crisis, but our politicians had Ukraine as a priority and there is never any public debate about this in Canada.

The problem isn't that we don't have money to fix housing. The problem is that developers have little incentive to do that. Why has the condo market cratered right now, oversaturated with stock, despite a massive need for housing?

In case you have missed the last, oh, fifteen or twenty years, it's in good part because developers have built shoebox sized, overpriced "luxury" condos (edit: And McMansions), aimed entirely at middlemen (small landlords and REITs), allowing them to flood the market with impractical housing that does nothing but take advantage of the desperate and raise the overall cost of housing. There is a lot of housing out there, it's just priced out of greed and not necessity.

Unless a freshly voted-in fiscally conservative Liberal government is going to start pulling the very leftist move of forcing rental prices down, taking housing out of the hands of provinces or (heavens) being the one to build housing, things aren't going to change quickly or easily.

 

[gabe]

The problem isn't that we don't have money to fix housing. The problem is that developers have little incentive to do that. Why has the condo market cratered right now, oversaturated with stock, despite a massive need for housing?

In case you have missed the last, oh, fifteen or twenty years, it's in good part because developers have built shoebox sized, overpriced "luxury" condos (edit: And McMansions), aimed entirely at middlemen (small landlords and REITs), allowing them to flood the market with impractical housing that does nothing but take advantage of the desperate and raise the overall cost of housing. There is a lot of housing out there, it's just priced out of greed and not necessity.

Unless a freshly voted-in fiscally conservative Liberal government is going to start pulling the very leftist move of forcing rental prices down, taking housing out of the hands of provinces or (heavens) being the one to build housing, things aren't going to change quickly or easily.

Some McMansions are for sale in my neighborhood. They have been on the market a really long time. ( one of them sitting empty and never lived in) Listed at nearly 3 million and look like an airport lounge inside. Yet any 1960s backsplit or bungalow sells within a week or two.

Its alsways sad to see these quaint mid centrry homes destroyed and replaced with McCrap.

 

[Monarch Butterfly]

Some McMansions are for sale in my neighborhood. They have been on the market a really long time. ( one of them sitting empty and never lived in) Listed at nearly 3 million and look like an airport lounge inside. Yet any 1960s backsplit or bungalow sells within a week or two.

Its alsways sad to see these quaint mid centrry homes destroyed and replaced with McCrap.

The 1960s backsplit and bungalows were built with very thin insulation. They can be upgraded with more thicker installed walls and roofs, to save on heating and air-conditioning.

My family did move into a bungalow in sprawling centre Etobicoke for a couple of years, back in the 1970s. We moved back to around Bloor West Village, because we could walk to the stores, medical offices, banks, and transit. The house was smaller but the location is what suited us.

 

[gabe]

The 1960s backsplit and bungalows were built with very thin insulation. They can be upgraded with more thicker installed walls and roofs, to save on heating and air-conditioning.

My family did move into a bungalow in sprawling centre Etobicoke for a couple of years, back in the 1970s. We moved back to around Bloor West Village, because we could walk to the stores, medical offices, banks, and transit. The house was smaller but the location is what suited us.

My partner and i would down size to a small house or semi on Bloor West Village or similar neighborhoods downtown tomorrow, if they weren't so damn expensive. We are childless, living in a five bedroom suburban home. And I'm car free. Condo's are out of the question, anything in our budget downtown is a shoebox. "Impractical housing" like zang said.

If things don't change within the next few years, we will move out of the GTA or even province.

 

[wopchop]

The 1960s backsplit and bungalows were built with very thin insulation. They can be upgraded with more thicker installed walls and roofs, to save on heating and air-conditioning.

Any of these GTA house could easily be retrofitted to suit modern times. They are small and simple houses. But in almost every case, these houses will be described as "tear downs", when in reality they can be easily renovated. A small crew can easily gut one in a day.

A big reason for this is because they are largely being bought by small to medium-sized developers, who want to build something that maximizes the allowable lot square footage, which maximizes the selling price.

Even if you are looking at renovations, a lot of contractors you speak to will try to steer you away from that path and down a path that leads to high square footage and high price (and revenue for them).

You also need to be a real builder to do a renovation for a client. Many of these builds are pushed by developers, not builders, and they do not have the skill set and trade background you need to do a renovation.

 

[AlvinofDiaspar]

She wasn't extradited anywhere. She was held, in Canada, on a provisional warrant under the Extradition Act pursuant to a treaty between Canada and US. He time in custody was consumed with her opposing the grounds for the warrant.

If we are going to have treaties with other countries, we'd best honour their terms.

Though recent experience also suggest that we have a clear understanding of what those terms meant and how they can be twisted (e.g. "national security"). Also the notion of "bad faith".

AoD