UtakataNoAnnex
Senior Member
Of coarse, they don’t make decisions on evidence and science, rather what “feels right” to our Premier at the time… /sigh
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Monarch Butterfly
Superstar
The Ontario Science Centre is "owned" by the Province of Ontario. The federal government of Canada "owns" museums of its own. Examples include the Canada Agriculture and Food Museum, the Canada Aviation and Space Museum, and the Canadian Museum of History.
So why doesn't the Canadian government "expropriate" the Ontario Science Centre, including the building and land, and turn it into the "Canada Science Centre"?
So why doesn't the Canadian government "expropriate" the Ontario Science Centre, including the building and land, and turn it into the "Canada Science Centre"?
narduch
Senior Member
The Federal Liberals don't really give a shit about anything Ford does
AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
Plus it wouldn't make any sense for the Feds to run a science museum in Toronto - when there is already the Canadian Science and Technology Museum in Ottawa.
AoD
Monarch Butterfly
Superstar
How about "branches" in each provincial capital?
AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
Not sure if it makes much sense either - considering a good number of the provinces have their own science museums (off the top of my head - BC, AB, QC all got them). What's unique that the National museum would be offering to warrant branches?
AoD
argus
Active Member
Budgeting would be a major obstacle to this.
UtakataNoAnnex
Senior Member
It was never quite the same as OSC, IMO.
...to be fair though, that was back in the late 80's..which was somewhere back between horse drawn carts and horseless buggies. >.<
Coolibop
Active Member
Comments from Minister Surma at today's Ontario Place announcement (around 32 min mark):
Regarding the temporary location (an RFP was issued a year ago, and it was originally slated to open in January 2026):
Sherway and Harbourfront pop-up locations have drawn a combined 50,000 visitors so far— a stark contrast to the 786,000 visitors in 2023 (including over 120k students).
No decision has been made on a permanent, temporary location. There's also no word yet on whether the current pop-ups will continue. Staff are considering rotating through different municipalities that have expressed interest.
On the old Science Centre building in Don Mills: Minister Surma deferred to the City of Toronto and the TRCA (who own the property) regarding its future use. For now, workers are still in the building, addressing ongoing mitigation efforts. She added that the site will be remediated according to what the City and TRCA ultimately decide to do with it (those conversations are just starting).
As for timelines? Still unclear. When asked about the 2029 target date for the new Science Centre, Premier Ford dismissed it, saying those were media-reported dates, not the government’s.
Regarding the temporary location (an RFP was issued a year ago, and it was originally slated to open in January 2026):
Sherway and Harbourfront pop-up locations have drawn a combined 50,000 visitors so far— a stark contrast to the 786,000 visitors in 2023 (including over 120k students).
No decision has been made on a permanent, temporary location. There's also no word yet on whether the current pop-ups will continue. Staff are considering rotating through different municipalities that have expressed interest.
On the old Science Centre building in Don Mills: Minister Surma deferred to the City of Toronto and the TRCA (who own the property) regarding its future use. For now, workers are still in the building, addressing ongoing mitigation efforts. She added that the site will be remediated according to what the City and TRCA ultimately decide to do with it (those conversations are just starting).
As for timelines? Still unclear. When asked about the 2029 target date for the new Science Centre, Premier Ford dismissed it, saying those were media-reported dates, not the government’s.
EnviroTO
Senior Member
Hopefully some future government creates a proper science centre in the scale of the original, perhaps out in the portlands. The one wedged between Therme and Live Nation can be labelled "Ford Brothers Science Centre" so if it is incredibly lame we can find a way to smile at it.
Amare
Senior Member
Since Doug and Surma wont say it, I will:
There's a 0% chance the new Science Centre will open in this decade, the temporary "permanent" location will never be established, and the "pop up" locations will be dulled down and obsolete within 2-3 years.
There's a 0% chance the new Science Centre will open in this decade, the temporary "permanent" location will never be established, and the "pop up" locations will be dulled down and obsolete within 2-3 years.
UtakataNoAnnex
Senior Member
They closed this wonderful facility on a lies and false claims. It would be nice they start owning this and work with The City to open this up again, so they don't have to waist money finding/building a new home for it. Why reinvent the wheel here?
Amare
Senior Member
Unfortunately no chance of it happening, since Ford is using the Ontario Science Centre relocation to justify and build attendance numbers for this idiotic spa.
At this point i'm just resigned to it all, 80% of the waterfront is already a walking embarrassment. Why not just go ruin even more of it since the city/province are absolutely clueless with how to build a proper waterfront. If it wasnt for Waterfront Toronto, 98% of the waterfront would be a world-class embarrassment.
But I digress, unfortunately the OSC at Don Mills is gone for good.
old boy
Senior Member
I can see it now - the giant inflated balloon with a smiling Doug Ford in the middle. Maybe even a permanent statue of him there someday.