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I saw on IG that there was a motion by a councillor to have the City take over the Science Centre but can’t find it now and haven’t seen it elsewhere. Was it deferred until Thursday’s meeting?
 
rdaner said:
Add Geoffrey Hinton to list of $1m donors as of this afternoon.
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at least they aren't one of the donors who's complaining about the capital gains while at the same time trying to hand the government thousands of dollars.
 
With DoFo it’s always crucial to follow the money.

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...is there any citation or source on the bottom bullet's claim of turning OSC current site into private condos? I can't seem to find anything on that.

Edit: /ugh...unintentional page bump.
 
adma said:
Yeah, "to put it mildly". But, Mallick's had a history of hyperactively framing Modernism/Brutalism in what one might call architectural #MeToo terms (like its defenders are akin to Polanski apologists or something).

Like, a decade ago, *this*.

www.thestar.com

Heather Mallick: Meet the man who ruined a century of cities: Mallick

If I could travel back in time to kill someone, it would be the world’s worst architect, Le Corbusier.
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And I think that's where you'll find "horseshoe theory" on the part of the so-called "left" who opts to side with, or at least burnish the case for, DoFo's OSC scheme: some notion of "people don't like Brutalism". That is, they're already indisposed to the notion that there's any architecture worth being "sensitive" to here.

Personally, I'd rather abide by a "Doors Open pluralism" default re what "people" are open to appreciating.
 
AlvinofDiaspar said:
This is not a PR blunder - it is questionable decision-making and ulterior motives - just like the Greenbelt (unless you want to call flip-flopping on major policy "PR"). Calling it a PR issue cheapens the modus operandi of this government - it's the equivalent to someone using "ha ha, it's just a joke" as an excuse.

Also, the government appointed the board - did the board just realize that the building has long standing maintenance issues? If that is so, I question the competence of the board in their duties and by extension, whose interests are they reflecting.

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AlvinofDiaspar said:
This is not a PR blunder - it is questionable decision-making and ulterior motives - just like the Greenbelt (unless you want to call flip-flopping on major policy "PR"). Calling it a PR issue cheapens the modus operandi of this government - it's the equivalent to someone using "ha ha, it's just a joke" as an excuse.

Also, the government appointed the board - did the board just realize that the building has long standing maintenance issues? If that is so, I question the competence of the board in their duties and by extension, whose interests are they reflecting.
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sixrings said:
Correct. All sorts of governments neglected this place. I don’t like Doug. Didn’t vote for Doug. But everything isn’t Doug’s fault.
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Exactly! People are quick to forget Mcguinty and Wynne! Two pathetic individuals. I actually was employed at the centre when those 2 clowns were in power
 
4hghr said:
Exactly! People are quick to forget Mcguinty and Wynne! Two pathetic individuals. I actually was employed at the centre when those 2 clowns were in power
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It's Doug's fault now. And whataboutisms can only cover his arse so far here as he is one who pulled the trigger. /shrug
 
sixrings said:
I think anyone would close it if they found out. The problem is that the conservatives have been in charge for a few years now. Why hasn’t it had the maintenance it needed.
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Worked there for over two decades and the higher ups didn’t care to maintain it. funny thing is that they started closing for a full week in the first week of September and asked all the staff to do maintenance work like painting and patching dry walls. Instead of hiring the right people to do the work they would find ways to cut corners to save money for their bonuses at the end o
 
^Good news! Maybe now is the time to start bringing in other users for this vast and under-prized property. Maybe the Aga Khan Foundation has some ideas? Or Transeuropehalles which specializes in converting old buildings for new cultural uses?

We don’t have to reinvent the wheel as the City of Toronto has created a really successful model of marrying heritage structures and new users in The Bathurst Quay/Silos Project.
 
CBC Toronto has a piece on the condition of roof, nothing revelatory, but an illustrative image some may appreciate.

"The green areas represent panels of the Science Centre roof that engineering reports labelled as having a low risk of collapsing. The yellow areas are at medium risk. The red areas are at high risk and the blue areas were at critical risk. Areas with no highlighted colours weren't inspected." (caption for the photo below, from CBC)


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Credit CBC/Steven Silcox from the link below:

 
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