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Towered said:
Latest significant change south of the border: Minnesota has finally adopted a new state flag.

From this piece of shit:
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To this:
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I am not sure what this actually represents, but I do understand that the conservative elements of the state consider the new flag to represent the conquest of the sate by Somali….based on similarities of the two flags. Just another day in America.
 
A shot in the dark would be that the star represents the North star, a prominent icon in Minnesota. The blues are probably the lakes and the snow.

Looked into it: The dark blue shape is a simplified icon of the states physical shape, the light blue is lake. Star is indeed the North star.
 
picard102 said:
A shot in the dark would be that the star represents the North star, a prominent icon in Minnesota. The blues are probably the lakes and the snow.

Looked into it: The dark blue shape is a simplified icon of the states physical shape, the light blue is lake. Star is indeed the North star.
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I looked it up and you are right - the star is the north star. The two shades of blue represent the land mass of the state and the water bordering the state. Interesting. Not really stirring my drink all that much, but then the flag of Canada is much similar in conception, and that works just fine.
 
Minnesota’s new flag is good, if not great. It’s simple, memorable, and unique – all good hallmarks of an effective flag. I wish the North Star had a different design, but that’s my only complaint.
 
ShonTron said:
Minnesota’s new flag is good, if not great. It’s simple, memorable, and unique – all good hallmarks of an effective flag. I wish the North Star had a different design, but that’s my only complaint.
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Number 1 rule of flag design, everyone has an opinion but no one is right. Your beautiful design might look like a dog's breakfast to me, or vice versa.

I like the new Minnesota design because it could represent absolutely anything - US state, Russian Oblast, SE Asian sultanate, old style cigarette packets ('enjoy the smooth taste of North Star menthols...'), a ferry company, any educational establishment, IT company, PR firm, a brand of sand paper, cat litter, cell phone case, ice cream...anything at all. (Well, except for the Minnesota North Stars -RIP).

Mods: should we have a separate thread on different flags, we seemed to have flogged Ontario long ago.
 
Lennox970 said:
Number 1 rule of flag design, everyone has an opinion but no one is right. Your beautiful design might look like a dog's breakfast to me, or vice versa.

I like the new Minnesota design because it could represent absolutely anything - US state, Russian Oblast, SE Asian sultanate, old style cigarette packets ('enjoy the smooth taste of North Star menthols...'), a ferry company, any educational establishment, IT company, PR firm, a brand of sand paper, cat litter, cell phone case, ice cream...anything at all. (Well, except for the Minnesota North Stars -RIP).

Mods: should we have a separate thread on different flags, we seemed to have flogged Ontario long ago.
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Flogged the flag?

Maybe Minnesota is subliminally saying they want to join Cuba.

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Normally I get giddy when this thread gets bumped, but leave it to a buffoon like Thug Ford to ruin things with his outdated view.
 
blacktrojan3921 said:
Wait; where did Ford say they are changing the flag? This seems more like it's a celebration of Ontario's Flag Day.
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Ford will NOT change the Ontario flag. Since it was the Progressive Conservatives (by PC Premier John Robarts) that adapted the Ontario flag as revenge against the Canadian Maple Leaf created federally in 1965.
 
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Ontario considered a flag-burning law — then abandoned it after internal pushback​

From https://globalnews.ca/news/11199159/ontario-flag-burning-law-plan/

A planned law that would’ve mandated the flying of the Ontario flag at all provincial buildings and banned the desecration of the Canadian flag has been scuttled by the Ford government, Global News has learned, after members of the Progressive Conservative caucus questioned the necessity of the bill.

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Multiple sources told Global News the proposal, spearheaded as part of a patriotism push by Minister of Citizenship and Multiculturalism Graham McGregor, would have potentially violated the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms and may have faced court challenges.

The proposal was scheduled to be discussed at Ford’s cabinet on May 21 – Ontario’s Flag Day – but was pulled from ministers’ briefing materials shortly before cabinet convened.

In a brief interview with Global News, McGregor confirmed that his ministry “won’t be tabling any legislation this spring session” but said the intent behind the measure was to “promote unity” in the province and country.
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“We live in the best province, the best country in the world, so we’re looking at options,” McGregor said. “But as far as internal deliberations, caucus, cabinet, etc., I just don’t have a comment to share.”
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Sources told Global News the law would have made it mandatory to fly both the Ontario and Canadian flags at all government of Ontario buildings, in effect creating the need for a secondary flagpole to accommodate the provincial banner.

The proposal wouldn’t have applied to schools, hospitals or facilities only funded by the Ontario government.
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While some sources said the law would have also included language that would allow for other flags, such as the Pride flag, to be flown, others in government expressed concern that mandating the Ontario and Canadian flags would have effectively prevented other flags from being recognized.

The legislation, however, would also have created a new provincial offence for anyone caught desecrating or burning the Canadian flag with fines of between $500 and $1,000 for repeat offences.

There are no specific Canadian laws against burning, shredding, stomping or spitting on the flag, according to criminal defence lawyer Jonathan Pyzer.

In addition to making desecration a provincial offence, Ontario’s proposal would have also given a police officer the right to demand the identification of an individual caught burning a flag, with potential arresting powers if they failed to provide ID.
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Progressive Conservative insiders told Global News the proposal received a lukewarm response when it was presented to caucus, with some questioning the need for such a proposal and others casting it as an unnecessary distraction.

Some sources believed the measure would also be unenforceable and run the risk of pitting police against the Canadian constitution’s free speech provisions.

In caucus, sources said, some MPPs likened the measure to the government’s controversial COVID-19 policy in 2021, which empowered police to conduct random checks in an effort to enforce the province’s stay-at-home orders.

Those measures, which triggered intense public backlash, were rescinded within 24 hours after police forces publicly rejected the powers.

While McGregor didn’t address the internal disagreements about the legislation, he suggested his ministry might look at other measures to rally around the Canadian flag.

“What I will say is regarding defending the flag, defending the Ontario and the Canadian flag, we’re always looking at opportunities on how we can promote that better,” McGregor said.
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