UtakataNoAnnex
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Welp, if you made the centre part yellow, it would be fairly Brazilian in it's approach... 
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just east of the creek
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Tory Blue and Liberal Redā¦..not sure where or why the boreal forest green does not show, and perhaps the copper orange to signify natural resources extraction, and then you have all the main political spectrums covered as well.ā¦And although I am not qualified to speak with any authority, I believe that Ontario First Nations use the cedar as a symbol of peace and reconciliation, so perhaps as part of the trillium motif?
Towered
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Utah has officially adopted a new flag as of today:
From this travesty:
To this:
If even a conservative place like that can replace a terrible flag design without much fuss, there really shouldnāt be an excuse in Ontarioā¦
From this travesty:
To this:
If even a conservative place like that can replace a terrible flag design without much fuss, there really shouldnāt be an excuse in Ontarioā¦
lenaitch
Senior Member
Yes, but it seems now they have four state flags (one official and 3 historic) and proposing a law that the old one must be flow with the new one. It doesn't seem as straight forward as it appears, and it took five years to get to this point..
What are they, the beehive capital of the US?
Utah has a new state flag after Gov. Cox signs banner bill ā for now
Utah Gov. Spencer Cox signed legislation to adopt a new state flag. That change could be short-lived as opponents are hoping to collect enough signatures to put the issue up for a public vote.
11th
Senior Member
They are called the "beehive state"; has to do with the LDS Church's scripture.Yes, but it seems now they have four state flags (one official and 3 historic) and proposing a law that the old one must be flow with the new one. It doesn't seem as straight forward as it appears, and it took five years to get to this point..
What are they, the beehive capital of the US?
Utah has a new state flag after Gov. Cox signs banner bill ā for now
Utah Gov. Spencer Cox signed legislation to adopt a new state flag. That change could be short-lived as opponents are hoping to collect enough signatures to put the issue up for a public vote.www.sltrib.com
Towered
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You are correct that the old flag is still being kept active as a "historical" flag, but that really was just a shrewd, politically palatable maneuver to appease regressive elements of society opposed to any change in state symbols while introducing a new official flag. Check mate. In a way, it's a brilliant approach even if on the surface it seems convoluted.Yes, but it seems now they have four state flags (one official and 3 historic) and proposing a law that the old one must be flow with the new one. It doesn't seem as straight forward as it appears, and it took five years to get to this point..
Utah has a new state flag after Gov. Cox signs banner bill ā for now
Utah Gov. Spencer Cox signed legislation to adopt a new state flag. That change could be short-lived as opponents are hoping to collect enough signatures to put the issue up for a public vote.
Lennox970
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Towered
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I'm not sure I follow?
Lennox970
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The flag is a joke, isn't it? It looks like the logo of a 'United Food Company Ltd' or similar.
Monarch Butterfly
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Dated "Mar 22, 2023"
Towered
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It most certainly is not a joke, though I would definitely describe the original as such.
Lennox970
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The original bears comparison to many state flags, i.e. the arms on a navy background.
The new one has an anywhere/anything generic feel to it. Could be the State of Utah but also United Honey Company, Rocky Mountain Technical College, Colorado Yurt Rentals, etc.
Of course, ultimately, any flag can be critiqued.
Towered
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More US states beginning flag change initiatives to eliminate their current garbage designs: Minnesota, North Carolina, Illinois, and Maine.
DSCToronto
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The UT Vexillogists may enjoy this from The Economist (July 1 2023)
Jun 29th 2023
Have you ever met a vexed vexillologist? This is someone who frets when flags are badly designed. Sadly, too many flags flutter to deceive: they are cluttered with imagery, a mess of colours and all too easily forgettable. Yet flags matter. Witness Ukraineās blue-and-yellow banner, which now serves as a potent symbol around the world (not to mention on this newspaperās covers). A fine flag can be something that citizens feel proud to pledge allegiance to, as well as an excellent marketing tool. Canadaās red maple leaf, for example, has advertised the country on countless backpacks across the world.
A bad banner has an obvious solution: change it. That is what several American states and cities have been doing, or at least contemplating. In March, Utah approved a new standard with a bold beehive to replace its fussier old flag. Maine may ask voters to decide in November whether it should switch from its current, over-intricate design to a different one with a plain pine tree and a blue star, a reinterpretation of an older banner, which is already proving popular. The design is not yet settled, so perhaps a flag with a lobster could pinch the honours at the last minute.
Many people in Minnesota may not even realise they have a state flagāwhich is lucky. The state representative who has led a campaign to replace the current one has described it as āa cluttered genocidal messā. Its imagery includes three dates from the 1800s, a French motto and a Native American riding away in the background while, in the foreground, a farmer tills the land. A new design is due to replace it next May.
Fortunately, the world has centuries of experience that can help guide better flag design. This has led to a few well-established rules. First, keep it simple. A good test is whether a child can draw it from memory. Japanās red circle in a white rectangle passes the test with, er, flying colours. So does New Mexicoās design (pictured), another red-sun symbol, against a yellow background; it is a thing of simple beauty.
Second, use meaningful symbolism: think Israelās Star of David, the Soviet hammer-and-sickle or Americaās 50 stars, representing all its states, and 13 stripes, evoking the original colonies. (Mozambique, displaying an ak-47 assault rifle, perhaps went too far.) Third, limit the palette to just a few basic colours. True, as South Africaās black-gold-green-white-red-blue emblem shows, it is possible to break this rule successfully, but even the rainbow Pride flag, in its most familiar version, cut two colours from its original eight, because hot pink and cool turquoise made it hard to manufacture. The fact that banners are often viewed from the back helps explain a fourth sensible rule: avoid lettering.
Last but certainly not least: be distinctive. You will then avoid the situation of Indonesia and Monaco, whose flags look the same, as do Romaniaās and Chadās. Nepalās jagged double-pennon, by contrast, is delightfully uniqueāthe only national flag with an irregular shape. Similarly, Jamaicaās is the only one without red, white or blue. Switzerland and the Vatican stand out as the only countries with flags that are square.
Sometimes proposals for new flags fail. Badges of identity arouse strong feelings. New Zealanders rejected a switch in a referendum in 2016. Traditionalists can feel attached to old emblems. But from Maine to Milwaukee, plenty of placesācall them flaggardsāhave dreadful, old-fashioned banners that are ripe for change. In 2004 Pocatello, Idaho, was reckoned in a survey of vexillologists to have the worst city flag in America. It was changed in 2017, and in a survey last year the new flag ranked 11th in the country. Come on, flaggards, do the Pocatello. ā
Jun 29th 2023
Have you ever met a vexed vexillologist? This is someone who frets when flags are badly designed. Sadly, too many flags flutter to deceive: they are cluttered with imagery, a mess of colours and all too easily forgettable. Yet flags matter. Witness Ukraineās blue-and-yellow banner, which now serves as a potent symbol around the world (not to mention on this newspaperās covers). A fine flag can be something that citizens feel proud to pledge allegiance to, as well as an excellent marketing tool. Canadaās red maple leaf, for example, has advertised the country on countless backpacks across the world.
A bad banner has an obvious solution: change it. That is what several American states and cities have been doing, or at least contemplating. In March, Utah approved a new standard with a bold beehive to replace its fussier old flag. Maine may ask voters to decide in November whether it should switch from its current, over-intricate design to a different one with a plain pine tree and a blue star, a reinterpretation of an older banner, which is already proving popular. The design is not yet settled, so perhaps a flag with a lobster could pinch the honours at the last minute.
Many people in Minnesota may not even realise they have a state flagāwhich is lucky. The state representative who has led a campaign to replace the current one has described it as āa cluttered genocidal messā. Its imagery includes three dates from the 1800s, a French motto and a Native American riding away in the background while, in the foreground, a farmer tills the land. A new design is due to replace it next May.
Fortunately, the world has centuries of experience that can help guide better flag design. This has led to a few well-established rules. First, keep it simple. A good test is whether a child can draw it from memory. Japanās red circle in a white rectangle passes the test with, er, flying colours. So does New Mexicoās design (pictured), another red-sun symbol, against a yellow background; it is a thing of simple beauty.
Second, use meaningful symbolism: think Israelās Star of David, the Soviet hammer-and-sickle or Americaās 50 stars, representing all its states, and 13 stripes, evoking the original colonies. (Mozambique, displaying an ak-47 assault rifle, perhaps went too far.) Third, limit the palette to just a few basic colours. True, as South Africaās black-gold-green-white-red-blue emblem shows, it is possible to break this rule successfully, but even the rainbow Pride flag, in its most familiar version, cut two colours from its original eight, because hot pink and cool turquoise made it hard to manufacture. The fact that banners are often viewed from the back helps explain a fourth sensible rule: avoid lettering.
Last but certainly not least: be distinctive. You will then avoid the situation of Indonesia and Monaco, whose flags look the same, as do Romaniaās and Chadās. Nepalās jagged double-pennon, by contrast, is delightfully uniqueāthe only national flag with an irregular shape. Similarly, Jamaicaās is the only one without red, white or blue. Switzerland and the Vatican stand out as the only countries with flags that are square.
Sometimes proposals for new flags fail. Badges of identity arouse strong feelings. New Zealanders rejected a switch in a referendum in 2016. Traditionalists can feel attached to old emblems. But from Maine to Milwaukee, plenty of placesācall them flaggardsāhave dreadful, old-fashioned banners that are ripe for change. In 2004 Pocatello, Idaho, was reckoned in a survey of vexillologists to have the worst city flag in America. It was changed in 2017, and in a survey last year the new flag ranked 11th in the country. Come on, flaggards, do the Pocatello. ā
Towered
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Latest significant change south of the border: Minnesota has finally adopted a new state flag.
From this piece of shit:
To this:
From this piece of shit:
To this: