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Glenco said:
I really don’t understand your reasoning
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Empty lot kitty corner to WEM station. Could have easily had a 4-8 story mixed use project. Instead we’re getting a 1980s strip mall. Any other lot along the southside of 87ave wouldn’t be able to do much more than duplexes or townhomes in terms of infill. Old, front driveway suburban homes.

This was the only lot that could have seen TOD. 4 blocks south is a huge strip mall that can provide more local retail with lots of surface parking.

Only TOD that can happen for Wem station now is on Wem parking lots. And idk if they care to do that anytime soon.

It’s not the end of the world. But feels sooo Edmonton to put a new strip mall 40 feet away from a brand new 3 billion dollar LRT project.

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thommyjo said:
Empty lot kitty corner to WEM station. Could have easily had a 4-8 story mixed use project. Instead we’re getting a 1980s strip mall. Any other lot along the southside of 87ave wouldn’t be able to do much more than duplexes or townhomes in terms of infill. Old, front driveway suburban homes.

This was the only lot that could have seen TOD. 4 blocks south is a huge strip mall that can provide more local retail with lots of surface parking.

Only TOD that can happen for Wem station now is on Wem parking lots. And idk if they care to do that anytime soon.

It’s not the end of the world. But feels sooo Edmonton to put a new strip mall 40 feet away from a brand new 3 billion dollar LRT project.

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I see the argument here but from the perspective of the city, the mall is already a massive trip generator in itself, and there are dozens of other areas along the entire alignment that are far more prime for more impactful TOD. For example, the Elmwood Townhomes just down the street next to the Misericordia station is a massive 28 acre site which is a huge waste of space. It's hard to imagine that these won't be redeveloped once the line opens. so while I agree that mixed use on this site would have been great, it doesn't seem like a huge loss.

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biketime said:
I see the argument here but from the perspective of the city, the mall is already a massive trip generator in itself, and there are dozens of other areas along the entire alignment that are far more prime for more impactful TOD. For example, the Elmwood Townhomes just down the street next to the Misericordia station is a massive 28 acre site which is a huge waste of space. It's hard to imagine that these won't be redeveloped once the line opens. so while I agree that mixed use on this site would have been great, it doesn't seem like a huge loss.

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Agreed. We have endless TOD potential honestly haha. So it is what it is. Just so lame to be complaining about sprawl and taxes as a city, wanting to see better transit use, building thousands of wood frame apartments next to the henday, then adding strip malls and surface parking to lots like this next to a multi billion dollar transit line.
 
thommyjo said:
Empty lot kitty corner to WEM station. Could have easily had a 4-8 story mixed use project. Instead we’re getting a 1980s strip mall. Any other lot along the southside of 87ave wouldn’t be able to do much more than duplexes or townhomes in terms of infill. Old, front driveway suburban homes.

This was the only lot that could have seen TOD. 4 blocks south is a huge strip mall that can provide more local retail with lots of surface parking.

Only TOD that can happen for Wem station now is on Wem parking lots. And idk if they care to do that anytime soon.

It’s not the end of the world. But feels sooo Edmonton to put a new strip mall 40 feet away from a brand new 3 billion dollar LRT project.

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I don’t understand what else could be done with this site. It is quite small for any large scale development on the corner of two busy roads. It is not like a strip mall in that it fronts the main road with parking at the rear. I don’t know if it shows very well but it has a second floor for offices or a clinic.
 
Glenco said:
I don’t understand what else could be done with this site. It is quite small for any large scale development on the corner of two busy roads. It is not like a strip mall in that it fronts the main road with parking at the rear. I don’t know if it shows very well but it has a second floor for offices or a clinic.
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175st is a residential road with driveways onto it adjacent to this property. So not quite “2 busy roads”. It’s easily large enough for a 5 over 1 MU project or a 6 story residential. Could even have done 8-10 stories based on the distance to transit and being next to an arterial. Look at the rezoning for all of 156st to rm23. This lot is identical to many of those and closer to transit.

It has surface parking and is low density, aka, strip mall. We build better density on busier roads, with 0 transit nearby. Just feels not aligned with any of our city’s goals and like a missed opportunity.
 
thommyjo said:
175st is a residential road with driveways onto it adjacent to this property. So not quite “2 busy roads”. It’s easily large enough for a 5 over 1 MU project or a 6 story residential. Could even have done 8-10 stories based on the distance to transit and being next to an arterial. Look at the rezoning for all of 156st to rm23. This lot is identical to many of those and closer to transit.

It has surface parking and is low density, aka, strip mall. We build better density on busier roads, with 0 transit nearby. Just feels not aligned with any of our city’s goals and like a missed opportunity.
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So is this a strip mall. Two story retail with parking in the rear? Don’t lose sleep over it.
 
Glenco said:
View attachment 611492So is this a strip mall. Two story retail with parking in the rear? Don’t lose sleep over it.
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Oh boy hahahahaha. You can’t be serious. Bad faith argument for days haha.

I’ll grab some pics of your special OEX3 once it’s finished and we can celebrate it’s amazing land use kitty corner to our 5 billion dollar train line.
 

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