[gabe]

Don’t these companies have to pay the international students minimum wage. If so how are these companies saving money?

Corporations are exploiting international students and TFWs to suppress wages.

 

[AlvinofDiaspar]

Don’t these companies have to pay the international students minimum wage. If so how are these companies saving money?

Burger King wants a manager for $48K. Experts say foreign workers aren’t the answer | Globalnews.ca

A Toronto-area Burger King can't fill a manager position, raising questions about the pay it's offering — and whether the temporary foreign workers program is suppressing wages.

globalnews.ca

That's corporate - and I haven't even gotten into the myriad of ways franchisees can exploit the system and/or workers in part-time roles. Do you think that a full-time fast food manager should be a role that pays $25/hr and require foreign workers to fill in one of the largest city in Canada - given the CoL of the region and that we have an unemployment rate of 7%+?

AoD

 

[sixrings]

Burger King wants a manager for $48K. Experts say foreign workers aren’t the answer | Globalnews.ca

A Toronto-area Burger King can't fill a manager position, raising questions about the pay it's offering — and whether the temporary foreign workers program is suppressing wages.

globalnews.ca

That's corporate - and I haven't even gotten into the myriad of ways franchisees can exploit the system and/or workers in part-time roles. Do you think that a full-time fast food manager should be a role that pays $25/hr and require foreign workers to fill in one of the largest city in Canada - given the CoL of the region and that we have an unemployment rate of 7%+?

AoD

Well I don’t know the answer. But I got into the conversation because someone suggested we should have minimum wage jobs around in case Canadians lose their jobs and need a place not to go homeless. I simply don’t think that’s an answer. You definitely can’t pay a mortgage with minimum wage but guess what rent is not that far behind. Rent is basically a mortgage payment minus the person having to put up the 20% down to get the bank to finance them. So to me it’s the same thing.

Anyways I’ll sound super conservative here and btw I only vote liberal. But my super liberal wife was super excited about the minimum wage increase last time it went into effect before Covid. The next day we went to the movie theatre and you guessed it the prices went up. Because companies just pass on the cost to the consumer. And companies know you have more money and they want a piece of that as well. Things just get more expensive. Which gets us to my union station thread where I’ve basically shared that in the last few years I have become a hermit since companies have replaced lower cost home in the wall restaurants and entertainment for everything being higher end. In five years I feel like I turned into an 80 year old reminiscing on the old days pricing. And I’m 45!!!!!!

 

[goodcitywhenfinished]

Burger King wants a manager for $48K. Experts say foreign workers aren’t the answer | Globalnews.ca

A Toronto-area Burger King can't fill a manager position, raising questions about the pay it's offering — and whether the temporary foreign workers program is suppressing wages.

globalnews.ca

That's corporate - and I haven't even gotten into the myriad of ways franchisees can exploit the system and/or workers in part-time roles. Do you think that a full-time fast food manager should be a role that pays $25/hr and require foreign workers to fill in one of the largest city in Canada - given the CoL of the region and that we have an unemployment rate of 7%+?

AoD

Just to note: store managers for chains in the US regularly clear six figures USD.

Or look at manager salaries for gas stations like Bucees. You make more than a graduate software engineer in Toronto.

Something is awfully rotten with Canadian business culture. A reluctance to invest in technology and automation is pretty central.

 

[sixrings]

Just to note: store managers for chains in the US regularly clear six figures USD.

Or look at manager salaries for gas stations like Bucees. You make more than a graduate software engineer in Toronto.

Something is awfully rotten with Canadian business culture. A reluctance to invest in technology and automation is pretty central.

Well that’s impressive since fast food seems considerably cheaper in the states despite their complaining.

 

[Bojaxs]

Just to note: store managers for chains in the US regularly clear six figures USD.

Or look at manager salaries for gas stations like Bucees. You make more than a graduate software engineer in Toronto.

Something is awfully rotten with Canadian business culture. A reluctance to invest in technology and automation is pretty central.

The reluctance to invest in tech and automation by Canadian businesses stems from the fact that the Feds make it so easy to acquire cheap labour in this country. Just file a LMIA report.

Look at the United States before the Civil War. The North, which banned slavery, went all in on factories and machinery. Where as the South which still allowed slavery, still used labourers and made little investments in machinery.

 

[T3G]

Even when renting you just have to have a backup plan for what happens when you lose a job (money stashed away, being able to move back with family or share a place with friends, moving to a lower cost of living place etc). It's not the governments responsibility to protect jobs at all costs, it's your responsibility to make sure your skills and experience are valuable in the job market.

I will remember this comment in 30 years when automation has thrown us all out of work.

What is the government's responsibility, in your eyes, if looking out for the best interests of their citizens is not?

 

[gabe]

TTC plans to end controversial practice of using buses as stopgap shelters

The strategy 'was misguided, and I appreciate that the TTC is recognizing that,' says a prominent community worker.

www.thestar.com

 

[SubHuman]

... there is also, I would argue, a bit too much sensitivity on the subject of extended, involuntary care, where a person has clearly shown they are unwilling or unable to keep to a plan of care that keeps them stable in the outside world.

DSCToronto posted this in another thread.
https://archive.is/1wwld

New York City commits to involuntary commitment​

Compulsory treatment of the severely mentally ill was once taboo. No longer​

... team of police officers and psychiatric clinicians approach ...
The clinician may also determine if they need more pointed help, whether they want it or not.
... instructed police and first responders to hospitalise people with severe mental illness who are incapable of looking after themselves...

New York is not alone in expanding involuntary treatment. California overhauled its system in 2022, creating a new civil-court system aimed at directing the mentally ill and homeless to treatment

Edit:

I used the SafeTTC App this morning to report someone exposing himself (pants hanging much too low, rather than something more deliberate) in Dufferin Station. They responded within 2-3 minutes and said they were sending someone, though since the guy was doing it right next to the ticket booth, someone should have been there already.

I think they need to clarify if this is the type of thing they want us to report and that they will respond to .
To me, it doesn't necessarily fit their description of "harassment, safety concerns or suspicious activity".
https://www.ttc.ca/riding-the-ttc/safety-and-security/safe-ttc-app

It might be a good idea to encourage us (and their own staff) to report these type of things, if they actually are willing and able to do something about it, since apparently "people are still responsible for the majority of delays in the TTC system — about 60 per cent in all. That includes disorderly passengers and trespassing on tracks."

I am mystified as to how or why anyone would think it's a good course of action to avoid institutionalizing the mentally unsound individuals who repeatedly climb onto subway tracks, and allow them to continue doing it until they may get killed by a train when they're doing it for the fifth or sixth time.

 

[ownthesky]

DSCToronto posted this in another thread.
https://archive.is/1wwld

The dramatic overcorrection from the tyrannical asylums in our great grandparents generation to the near total abandonment of our most vulnerable citizens is one of the tragedies of modern liberalism. We let people without any capacity live in misery under the illusion of a false autonomy, merely shifting people from sleeping in an asylum to sleeping in a park.

 

[SubHuman]

... We let people without any capacity live in misery under the illusion of a false autonomy ...

There does seem to be, among some, a bizarrely illogical refusal to acknowledge there are people who are so mentally unsound that they need to be institutionalized (as I mentioned above, even after doing something as obviously dangerous to themselves as climbing onto subway tracks).

 

[MisterF]

The reluctance to invest in tech and automation by Canadian businesses stems from the fact that the Feds make it so easy to acquire cheap labour in this country. Just file a LMIA report.

Look at the United States before the Civil War. The North, which banned slavery, went all in on factories and machinery. Where as the South which still allowed slavery, still used labourers and made little investments in machinery.

Our overreliance on real estate is a big part if it too, and I feel like it comes from the same cultural trends as the boom in low wage migrant labour. We've developed a culture of getting rich off low effort, shortsighted schemes. So we have less money in the economy and more of that money is tied up in buying homes so there's less left over for investing in technology. Productivity has been a problem in Canada for decades and these trends have made it worse.

I will remember this comment in 30 years when automation has thrown us all out of work.

What is the government's responsibility, in your eyes, if looking out for the best interests of their citizens is not?

People have been saying this for centuries. Every new technology has put people out of work but that hasn't led to mass unemployment yet. Maybe AI will be different but history shows that predictions like this have a tendency to be wrong.

 

[T3G]

People have been saying this for centuries. Every new technology has put people out of work but that hasn't led to mass unemployment yet. Maybe AI will be different but history shows that predictions like this have a tendency to be wrong.

The critical difference is that previous technological developments have never been intended to put the whole population out of work, whereas the AI CEOs are aiming to achieve exactly that.

Whether they will succeed is to be seen, but they certainly want it. And I don't think enough people around the world have enough backbone to put a stop to it.

 

[turbanplanner]

The critical difference is that previous technological developments have never been intended to put the whole population out of work, whereas the AI CEOs are aiming to achieve exactly that.

Whether they will succeed is to be seen, but they certainly want it. And I don't think enough people around the world have enough backbone to put a stop to it.

I don't see that in the short term. There are SO MANY applications, stock analysis, taking meeting notes, why would any AI firm sell their capabilities cheaply enough to compete with workers when there is way more big money stuff they can do?

Also, you own nothing that any of the AI bots spit out, and effectively own nothing going into them.

 

[T3G]

I don't see that in the short term. There are SO MANY applications, stock analysis, taking meeting notes, why would any AI firm sell their capabilities cheaply enough to compete with workers when there is way more big money stuff they can do?

Also, you own nothing that any of the AI bots spit out, and effectively own nothing going into them.

I don't know how they plan to execute it, but that's what they want.

Again, whether they will succeed remains to be seen. But I think that as long as we all lie down and accept AI as an inevitable sign of progress that is akin to electrically operated machines and steam locomotives, other hurdles will be easy to overcome.