RU479
Active Member
Something to note. The MPXpress range of locomotives (MP36s, MP40s, and MP54s) are no longer being listed on the Wabtec site. It is likely now that the new order of diesel locomotives will be a different model.
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SaugeenJunction
Senior Member
Siemens Charger confirmed
Bordercollie
Senior Member
I noticed that there is a siding that is out of service at the Acton GO station. Would there be any benefit in bringing this track back into service so that trains could pass each other between Guelph and Georgetown?Siemens Charger confirmed
gotransitboyhere
Active Member
Send me the links where it says Siemens charger confirmed.
squircle
New Member
It's not. The tender is still open until August 30th.
cplchanb
Senior Member
then again.... other than these 2 units, are there any other locos around that have a realistic chance of winning this?
RU479
Active Member
The only models that are readily available are the Siemens Charger, the EMD F125, and the MP54AC if it is still available.
Although maybe there’ll be a real curveball and Alstom will try offering something up so that when the electric locomotives arrive there will be atleast one common manufacturer between the electric and diesel power.
cplchanb
Senior Member
I seriously doubt the emd 125 will even be considered given it only has 1 customer after all these years
Bordercollie
Senior Member
ALP-45DP?
cplchanb
Senior Member
Ate they still in production? Does Alstom have the rigs to build it still?
RU479
Active Member
Well it’s still being sold by Progress Rail, so there’s still a chance.
Also I think it may actually have a chance as I heard the Chargers have reliability issues in colder weather, and since the F125 is an EMD, it has similar parts to the F59s, MP40s, and even a few parts of the MP54s.
smallspy
Senior Member
That story has been put to rest by three years of operations of the Chargers in the brutal Chicago winters. But hey, if you want to keep propagating an incorrect rumour.....
The amount of parts commonality between an F125 and an F59, MP40 or MP54 is measured in the fractions of a single percent. For all intents and purposes, there is none.
Also keep in mind that EMD hasn't existed in 12 years.
Dan
RU479
Active Member
Yeah I was doubting the whole Charger reliability issue, especially considering that if that were true, it’s likely VIA would have not purchased them for HFR. I was just relaying what other people said to me, but I guess that is the nature of these rumours. My apologies.
All I wanted to say was I don’t think that the Charger is 100% going to be selected, considering that this an open tender and Metrolinx would have not done this had they knew the Charger would be the only choice.
smallspy
Senior Member
Well, let's put this into perspective, shall we?
At this moment, I think that it is safe to say that there are 3 manufacturers who are likely to bid on this tender, as they have recently built or are currently building locos for the North American passenger market. Those are Progress Rail (F125), Wabtec (HSP46, MP54AC, take your pick) and Siemens (Charger). Any one of these could be an option.
There is the potential for a bit of a dark horse with Alstom - they could certainly bid with a neuter'd version of the ALP-45DM, which is currently in production.
The reality is this - Metrolinx will choose whatever of the products meets their requirements (and keep in mind that at this moment very few people outside of Metrolinx and whomever have taken tender documents know what those requirements are). If they prioritize speed of manufacture and delivery, they may very well choose Siemens, or Alstom if they offer anything. If they are looking for commonality with the fleet, then you have to assume that Wabtec has the upper hand.
Dan
Bordercollie
Senior Member
They will need to get in line since Amtrak just ordered another 50 chargers.
Amtrak Takes Up Option for 50 More Siemens Mobility Charger Locomotives
Amtrak has taken up the option to order a further 50 Charger locomotives from Siemens Mobility as it continues to replace its fleet.
railway-news.com