[Coolstar]

Maybe.... because they were leaving that to the OnCorr vendor - who they were only about to announce - to figure out?

- Paul

Looks like it’s crystal clear. They’re going to procure electric locomotives as per this release.

ALSTOM SA: Alstom and consortium partners selected for GO Expansion to transform collective mobility in Toronto, Canada

Alstom and consortium partners selected for GO Expansion to transform collective mobility in Toronto, Canada ONxpress Transportation Partners sign agreement with Metrolinx for the multibillion-dollar On-Corridor Works Project to transform collective mobility in the Greater Toronto and Hamilton...

finance.yahoo.com

 

[generalcanada]

Looks like it’s crystal clear. They’re going to procure electric locomotives as per this release.

ALSTOM SA: Alstom and consortium partners selected for GO Expansion to transform collective mobility in Toronto, Canada

Alstom and consortium partners selected for GO Expansion to transform collective mobility in Toronto, Canada ONxpress Transportation Partners sign agreement with Metrolinx for the multibillion-dollar On-Corridor Works Project to transform collective mobility in the Greater Toronto and Hamilton...

finance.yahoo.com

so that article is pulled from alstom themselves, who say they will procure new electric locomotives.

Alstom and consortium partners selected for GO Expansion to transform collective mobility in Toronto, Canada

www.alstom.com

now remember the business case itself said they were doing electric locos anyway.

The number of emus was always up for discussions, i bet thats why they leave that part out
they dont know how many or even if theyre going to order emus.

 

[RU479]

I have to wonder what has changed within the past 5 years to make this change, as I recall in the past most sources said GO RER would be operated with EMUs

 

[cplchanb]

I have to wonder what has changed within the past 5 years to make this change, as I recall in the past most sources said GO RER would be operated with EMUs

Value engineering. But let's reserve judgment until the full plan is rolled out. This could just be a stop gap measure for a quick start to electrification

 

[smallspy]

I have to wonder what has changed within the past 5 years to make this change, as I recall in the past most sources said GO RER would be operated with EMUs

Nothing has changed. Many people have ascribed that determination to Metrolinx as a fact, but the reality is that they have not said one way or the other what their preferred option is so as not to unduly influence the corporations bidding.

Dan

 

[cplchanb]

Nothing has changed. Many people have ascribed that determination to Metrolinx as a fact, but the reality is that they have not said one way or the other what their preferred option is so as not to unduly influence the corporations bidding.

Dan

To be fair since the start of rer they've been marketing the Stadler kiss in all their promotional material. Unless it's some rookie error by an intern, theor preference towards multiple units has been clear all along

 

[Bordercollie]

To be fair since the start of rer they've been marketing the Stadler kiss in all their promotional material. Unless it's some rookie error by an intern, theor preference towards multiple units has been clear all along

Does the Stadler KISS trains meet FRA regulations to run with freight traffic in North America?

 

[cplchanb]

Does the Stadler KISS trains meet FRA regulations to run with freight traffic in North America?

Now it is. They got the waiver for cal trans

 

[DavidH]

To be fair since the start of rer they've been marketing the Stadler kiss in all their promotional material. Unless it's some rookie error by an intern, theor preference towards multiple units has been clear all along

I don’t think it means anything, but Metrolinx has recently been exclusively using images of bilevels running under concatenary.

 

[superelevation]

Now it is. They got the waiver for cal trans

A waiver isn't even required anymore.

EMUs would be great, but not sure we need them anytime soon.

 

[cplchanb]

I don’t think it means anything, but Metrolinx has recently been exclusively using images of bilevels running under concatenary.

It's stock renders from their consultants. They just throw whatever block they have in their library

 

[cplchanb]

A waiver isn't even required anymore.

EMUs would be great, but not sure we need them anytime soon.

Probably not immediately, but if they're going to realise their goal or 3.5min headways, honking huge bilevel trains can't get them there efficiently

 

[DavidH]

It's stock renders from their consultants. They just throw whatever block they have in their library

Absolutely - but that IS what the Metrolinx marketing position has been lately. They haven't been showing EMUs, which is contrary to some of the statements earlier in this thread.

 

[smallspy]

To be fair since the start of rer they've been marketing the Stadler kiss in all their promotional material. Unless it's some rookie error by an intern, theor preference towards multiple units has been clear all along

I think that it's a bit of a stretch to ascribe the use of clipart and stock images in public-facing documents as an actual corporate preference.

Dan

 

[RU479]

I wonder what current GO motive power will be retired as a result of electrification

It's obvious that the F59s will be retired, I wouldn't even be surprised if they get withdrawn before electrification.

But what about GO's fleet of MP40s and MP54s? How many of those will be retired?