T3G
Senior Member
Or maybe they'll languish around the yard post-repainting for 4+ years. With ML you never know LOL
|
|
|
- Thread starter drum118
- Start date
smallspy
Senior Member
No. At the very least, they will need new HEP alternators (but not generators), switchgear and wiring to handle GO's HEP voltage.
In reality, they probably need some more major work as they likely haven't been well cared for over the most recent little while.
Dan
cplchanb
Senior Member
its funny how we keep on buying back our old garbage because we cant get our procurement act together....
Bordercollie
Senior Member
It's not garbage and why would you pay 10x more for new equipment that will be obsolete in ten years?
cplchanb
Senior Member
With the way ML does things whos to say they wont make their latest 10 year schedule.
besides theres plenty of newer used stock to pick from. what about the metrolink streamlined cabs that they decided to cannibalize?
they are much newer than these ones and are more worthwhile to utilized should this electrification plan go to shit.
as one of the largest rail operators in north america its honest embarrassing that we have to resort to this scrounging from the junk pile
RU479
Active Member
The Metrolink PHIs you are referring to were built in 1994, the same year as current F59PHs 562 - 564, and only 2 - 4 years newer than the F59s they are currently acquiring from EXO and Metrolink.
I wouldn’t consider that “much newer”
Last edited:
cplchanb
Senior Member
Considering how old everything that they buy are, 4 years newer is 4 years less corrosion and usage, especially since they were from sunny California where theres no snow and salt
carloverboy2k
New Member
I wouldn't classify them as the "junk pile". The PHI's are basically a streamlined F59, same engine overall, prime mover etc. Age wise as been stated above by another user, they aren't really newer either.
In my opinion the additional F59PH's are a great plan even if they are just sufficient until.. electrification starts.. Again it's better in the long run to utilize older diesel locomotives, if they plan to go all electric there is no money wasted on buying new fleet. GO Transit has had F59's since 1988, they proven to be quite reliable and easy to gather parts, it's clear gathering more and their original fleet back from other railroads etc means they want to keep their fleet consistent instead of having a bunch of random different types of locomotives.
CMQSD402F9011
Active Member
I’m sure ONR is looking for more 710 engines for the F59s which may include the F59PHIs
PShells
Active Member
Do you know how the recent California regulations on selling used trains impacts Metrolinx?
Is Metrolinx buying their former locomotives for parts or were they able to purchase them intact?
SaugeenJunction
Senior Member
As discussed earlier in the thread all of the Metrolink locomotives Metrolinx bought have had holes drilled in their prime movers, rendering them inoperable, due to California state law. Some of these units will be restored to service, some canabalized for parts. New prime movers will have to be sourced. Also, no current plans to restore the F59PHIs, just use them as donors.
CMQSD402F9011
Active Member
Question, when GO Transit were looking to buy newer locomotives in the mid 2000s. How come they didn’t go with the MPI MP36PH-3C which had the EMD 16-645F3Bs
Bordercollie
Senior Member
Not enough HP to pull a 12 car consist with a single locomotive.
smallspy
Senior Member
GO wanted a locomotive that could equal the F59PH in performance while pulling 12 cars, instead of the 10 car maximum of the F59s, and achieve a higher top speed. An MP36 can't do that, in part because of the lower horsepower and in part because of the smaller traction motors, so MPI didn't offer it.
Dan
RU479
Active Member
Is it known whether GO will send these units to North Bay (or Sarnia as seen with 867, 870, and 872) like the ex Metrolink units? Or will GO just overhaul them in house?